Re: General Discussions Reply #1380 – March 02, 2023, 03:32:07 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 02, 2023, 01:54:05 pmI see some person mocked Jesus on The Project which has caused some anger among the Christian community. I wonder if said person has the balls to mock an Islamic God on that high rating (lol) show. I suspect he'd be busy looking for safehouse the following day.Quote from: Baggers – on March 02, 2023, 02:16:58 pmI read the joke. At worst, insensitive, at best, clever (IMHO). I think Jesus would have had a chuckle.Anyone outraged by that joke should avoid any stand-up from Jimmy Carr!Comparing that fool to Jimmy Carr LMAO. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1381 – March 02, 2023, 03:33:32 pm Quote from: Mav – on March 02, 2023, 02:04:53 pmBut if he made racist jokes or put down other minorities, he’d be a hero to right wingers who would be outraged at cancel culture. Don’t tell me the defenders of the right to free speech are going to go all politically (religiously) correct and try to cancel a guy for telling a joke?So sometimes when the it suits, the "its only a joke guys" card is ok to play? Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1382 – March 02, 2023, 04:01:05 pm Quote from: tonyo – on March 02, 2023, 02:52:33 pmSaw Jimmy Carr at Hamer Hall a couple of weeks ago - he is certainly on the edge at times!Although I thought one of the best lines came from his SMS send-ins....."Don't bother getting a rescue cat - I got one for my Gran, but when she fell over in the garden the following day, the cat just sat there and did f*** all"I was there too. He is very much about pushing the envelope and doesn't pull his punches on anyone, and just when you think he has gone too far, he finds a way to go further. Jimmy Carr will have a go at literally everyone, so ergo, his joke telling his fine. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1383 – March 02, 2023, 04:07:53 pm Given the vitriol and hate that the LGBT community have faced, and continue to face, in large part from Christian groups, one could perhaps understand that some members of that community may fight back from time to time. To understand is not to condone, by the way. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: General Discussions Reply #1384 – March 02, 2023, 04:11:42 pm South Park is/was a pull no punches, nothing is off limits type of comedy.They had huge controversy when they were making an episode depicting Muhammad. They had threats and things got serious. This was recently after the Danish newspaper depicted Muhammad got worldwide attention.In the end South park had to sensor its own episode and remove depictions and voicing of Muhammed.....eventually those episodes got pulled from streaming services.Funny thing is. They had an episode with Muhammad in it about 10 years earlier that didn't cause any backlash.The first instance of cancel culture? Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1385 – March 02, 2023, 04:19:41 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on March 02, 2023, 03:32:07 pmComparing that fool to Jimmy Carr LMAO.Not comparing comedians, comparing extremes that some will go to Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1386 – March 02, 2023, 04:23:44 pm Quote from: PaulP – on March 02, 2023, 04:07:53 pmGiven the vitriol and hate that the LGBT community have faced, and continue to face, in large part from Christian groups, one could perhaps understand that some members of that community may fight back from time to time. To understand is not to condone, by the way. Exactly the same thing occurred to me re certain religions, Pauly. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. Sadly, some religious groups are not joking with their attitudes/condemnations of anyone different to them. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: General Discussions Reply #1387 – March 02, 2023, 04:25:06 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 02, 2023, 03:33:32 pmSo sometimes when the it suits, the "its only a joke guys" card is ok to play?That's right. Do you remember the defence of the Muslim AFLW player who refused to wear the pride top? Christians = Hate Muslim = Peace except when they bring down skyscrapers and blow people up. Just a joking, it's all fun. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1388 – March 02, 2023, 04:26:45 pm Quote from: kruddler – on March 02, 2023, 04:11:42 pmSouth Park is/was a pull no punches, nothing is off limits type of comedy.They had huge controversy when they were making an episode depicting Muhammad. They had threats and things got serious. This was recently after the Danish newspaper depicted Muhammad got worldwide attention.In the end South park had to sensor its own episode and remove depictions and voicing of Muhammed.....eventually those episodes got pulled from streaming services.Funny thing is. They had an episode with Muhammad in it about 10 years earlier that didn't cause any backlash.The first instance of cancel culture?Have you watched Anthony Jeselnik? Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1389 – March 02, 2023, 05:10:56 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 02, 2023, 03:33:32 pmSo sometimes when the it suits, the "its only a joke guys" card is ok to play?It’s funny when the anti-PC and anti-Woke crowd get their knickers in a knot over “free speech”. The irony is that the right wingers have always been about suppressing free speech and yet they say that they are its protectors. “Decency” and “respect” only limit attacks on their own sacrosanct concerns: the flag, the national anthem, our “betters”, our police, our military, capitalism (ooh, watch out for them Socialists!) and Christian values (and here we need to note that supposedly religious freedom is heat they’re on about except that only Christian religions are really worthy of respect). And whatever you do, don’t have a go at the military saluting the flag while the national anthem is playing!I would have thought that decency and respect would mean we shouldn’t bully minorities. And yet the crucible of right-wing thought, the USA, is currently awash with legislation intended to harass minorities and ensure they aren’t treated as equals. There are “Don’t Say Gay” laws, laws banning gender affirming medical treatment, laws banning abortions, laws banning schools from teaching about the history of slavery, book banning where the books include non-CIS gendered characters.The funny thing is right wingers supposedly want to keep government out of their lives. The smaller government is, the better. And yet they are the ones using government to regulate how others live their lives, even to the extent of prying into bedrooms to do it. So, don’t take our guns but make sure you take their rights. Nice one. Quote Selected Last Edit: March 02, 2023, 05:12:28 pm by Mav
Re: General Discussions Reply #1390 – March 02, 2023, 05:27:34 pm Wow, wish I'd said that (pure hypocrisy) as succinctly as you did, Wingman MAV. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1391 – March 02, 2023, 05:41:41 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 02, 2023, 01:54:05 pmI see some person mocked Jesus on The Project which has caused some anger among the Christian community. I wonder if said person has the balls to mock an Islamic God on that high rating (lol) show. I suspect he'd be busy looking for safehouse the following day.I think the ratings tell you something about "the project" as a non quality show......they did a piece on ISIS brides wanting back to Aus at the end of last year that made me switch off for good. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1392 – March 02, 2023, 06:27:59 pm Quote from: Mav – on March 02, 2023, 05:10:56 pmIt’s funny when the anti-PC and anti-Woke crowd get their knickers in a knot over “free speech”. The irony is that the right wingers have always been about suppressing free speech and yet they say that they are its protectors. “Decency” and “respect” only limit attacks on their own sacrosanct concerns: the flag, the national anthem, our “betters”, our police, our military, capitalism (ooh, watch out for them Socialists!) and Christian values (and here we need to note that supposedly religious freedom is heat they’re on about except that only Christian religions are really worthy of respect). And whatever you do, don’t have a go at the military saluting the flag while the national anthem is playing!I would have thought that decency and respect would mean we shouldn’t bully minorities. And yet the crucible of right-wing thought, the USA, is currently awash with legislation intended to harass minorities and ensure they aren’t treated as equals. There are “Don’t Say Gay” laws, laws banning gender affirming medical treatment, laws banning abortions, laws banning schools from teaching about the history of slavery, book banning where the books include non-CIS gendered characters.The funny thing is right wingers supposedly want to keep government out of their lives. The smaller government is, the better. And yet they are the ones using government to regulate how others live their lives, even to the extent of prying into bedrooms to do it. So, don’t take our guns but make sure you take their rights. Nice one.So now its ok, purely because its Christian Right wingers who happen not to agree with your opinion?Remember that thing about freedom of speech? Its not free of reprisal, and shouting down those opposed to the joke now is the exact hypocrisy you are espousing. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1393 – March 02, 2023, 07:01:58 pm It has never been free of reprisal, as the right wing and conservative religious forces have shown us over the years. The thing that ticks them off is that there is no longer agreement that it’s their God-given right to decide who is cancelled. But never fear, the right wing still has a monopoly on playing the victim. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #1394 – March 02, 2023, 07:04:51 pm Quote from: Mav – on March 02, 2023, 07:01:58 pmIt has never been free of reprisal, as the right wing and conservative religious forces have shown us over the years. The thing that ticks them off is that there is no longer agreement that it’s their God-given right to decide who is cancelled. But never fear, the right wing still has a monopoly on playing the victim.No they don't.This madness needs to end.We start treating everyone with the respect they deserve, or we are no better than those who came before us.This eye for an eye business is straight out of the old testament. Quote Selected