Carlton Supporters Club

Several hours after this incident there was a call to Radio 693 from a woman who said that she lived a street or 2 away.

She said that water had been running from the top of the hill for several weeks, the volume similar to that from a fire hose.  In addition, she said that council had been advised of the problem on a number of occasions.

Think you will find there may have been an issue with a drain at the top of the hill that has been compromised, the council and South East water are going to try and blame each other I presume if that story is true.

The first geotechnical “assessment” has appeared and it’s from a bloke with considerable experience of landslides in the area.

He says that the escarpment is unstable and landslides will be triggered by rain events, tree removal or poor drainage.  He also said that many of the houses have inadequate foundations for a landslip prone area.

I often watch the BOM rain radar to marvel at how many rain bands pass to our north and south and I have noticed that the other peninsula has copped a hammering over the last few months.

Funny you mention that, I was in North Portsea (aka Rosebud) and Macrae on Sunday for lunch when the storm passed through. It was nowhere near as bad as it was in Melbourne.

He also said that many of the houses have inadequate foundations for a landslip prone area.

Yep, that is why I discussed the drilled foundations, not sure when the new rules came in but it's a regular sight now on new builds.

Of course, the problem is rules only apply to people who follow them, so they don't stop cowboys. A huge problem is VCAT as it currently operates is an enabler, it's basically allowing people with sufficient wealth to write their own rules and councils are powerless.

Quote from: DJC – on January 15, 2025, 11:43:44 am

He also said that many of the houses have inadequate foundations for a landslip prone area.

Yep, that is why I discussed the drilled foundations, not sure when the new rules came in but it's a regular sight now on new builds.

Of course, the problem is rules only apply to people who follow them, so they don't stop cowboys. A huge problem is VCAT as it currently operates is an enabler, it's basically allowing people with sufficient wealth to write their own rules and councils are powerless.

Residents living above a luxury home that plunged 50m down cliffs in McCrae believe an underground stream contributed to the chaotic landslide, ..............

Before the slip a "shortcut staircase" had been built down the hillside into the corner of Penny Lane, it was where the dirt fountain now exists.

It may be that some authorities are to blame, but I don't think the blame will be as black and white as some want to make out, or are at least desperately trying to assert.

I feel sorry for the home owners, particularly the few who were not renting them out as AirBnB investment properties.

A lot of the properties down that way are largely unaffordable to locals, snapped up by inner city dwellers heading south for the pandemic, then rather than selling when they moved back, they renovated and turned the properties into short stay rentals, I have read on more than one occasion many people on the peninsula complaining about that behaviour, driving up house prices, and worse still small business owners reporting the evaporation of a huge chunk of local trade. The very boutique businesses, traders and activities that make that location popular are being killed by the heavily seasonal short stay tourism practises. I suspect given the announcement of the new tax, it won't be long before further legislation arrives.

This simpleton, when looking for a home to live, steers clear of places on cliffs, and places, close to and south of, forrests. Not to mention many places built in the last 25 or so years.