Carlton Supporters Club

Six of one and half a dozen of the other LP.

The neo-nazi groups provide an opportunity for like-minded folk to coalesce but they also have active recruiting and indoctrination programs.  The article I linked previously gives examples of recruitment and radicalisation of politically naive punters.

Quote from: DJC – on February 24, 2025, 09:40:36 am

Six of one and half a dozen of the other LP.

The neo-nazi groups provide an opportunity for like-minded folk to coalesce but they also have active recruiting and indoctrination programs.  The article I linked previously gives examples of recruitment and radicalisation of politically naive punters.

If this was 1960 and socialising face to face was important to absorb the manifesto then I agree, but it's 2025 and you can be radicalised while sitting alone on a bog 2000km from the nearest person.

Stephen Bannon(Bannonisation), Tucker Carlson(Tucked) and Joe Rogan(Roganisation) radicalise as many people as any gazetted organisation, and they do it sitting on their ar5e on the couch!

Furthermore, now we have AI spreading falsehood, trained itself off the internet with data sets mostly made of subterfuge and misdirection loaded content. AI cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is fake, things can't only get better! Researchers (If you can all them that!) try to put a "nice spin" on this call this an AI Dream or AI Nightmare dependant on the direction it takes, so are we shocked that AI leads people astray, and yes search algorithms are AI driven. We are all exposed and the best defence against this is knowledge and transparency not denial!

The Internet never forgets, the old rules of future generations forgetting do not apply, yet the darkness still rises.

You probably need to read it in the original German.

More than anything social conditions were the main reason for his rise.
The German psyche and the ability to make structure out of the unstructured groups of disenchanted youth. A lot of his rise depended on using and taking over already established groups like the S.A.
We should find it difficult to comprehend.We are talking about a foreign country a hundred years in the past.

Quote from: Lods – on February 24, 2025, 06:58:50 pm

You probably need to read it in the original German.

More than anything social conditions were the main reason for his rise.
The German psyche and the ability to make structure out of the unstructured groups of disenchanted youth. A lot of his rise depended on using and taking over already established groups like the S.A.
We should find it difficult to comprehend.We are talking about a foreign country a hundred years in the past.

It’s not that long ago for some of us Lods 🙄

Most of my schoolmates were the children of either veterans or refugees and the rise of national socialism was often discussed/debated.  Interestingly, there wasn’t the same opposition to symbols of nazism; you could give the nazi salute to a dictatorial teacher or wear a nazi uniform to a fancy dress party.  The copy of Mein Kampf that I tried to read was borrowed from either the school or council library.  However, German aircraft models came without swastikas.

I think that there was a feeling that nazism could be ridiculed - Hogan’s Heroes - because it couldn’t happen again 🤔

I like my 'white supremacists' in the open.

I tried reading Adolf's manifesto when I was in high school but gave up fairly quickly.  Apart from a couple of girls I fancied calling me a nazi, I found the writing hard to follow and the political "philosophy" (if I can call it that) was nonsensical. I decided that reading Mein Kampf was not the way to understand how a raving lunatic came to control the most powerful military of the 20th century.

I've heard some relatively new rumours today that should have users of cloud storage concerned, particularly if you us US controlled cloud storage, which I suppose means the likes of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc., etc... btw., This has surfaced from time to time, but up until now nobody has actually acted on it as it seems undemocratic.

It seems that somehow on the quiet some new proposed laws and changes are being pushed through that basically open your data to the likes of Musk's DOGE and whoever sits in the Whitehouse with the will and resources to analyse the data, I suppose not every Presidential Mandate gets a lot of publicity. Your data exposed, it's security and availability reduced.

Oddly, Australia might be immune as it appears our laws require the big players to operate and secure local storage of data, one of the big reasons we often only get access to a subset of services and content, but that doesn't mean it won't just be switched off! But if you use a VPN to skirt around geo-blocking, you might be sh1t out of luck!

I bet a lot of corporations are today scrambling to get their data back local, can imagine the commercial damage someone could inflict if they removed access to a US hosted database!