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Reply #195 –
Ken and Barbie are headed for oblivion.

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Reply #196 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Uh uh! Can't have "person" ! That has a male gendered ending I'm afraid.

So Batman becomes Batperson becomes Batperoffspring?

But what if a Bat identifies as a bird? Can't be....animalist!
Perhaps instead of Bat we should say Animal.

So perhaps Batman becomes Animalperoffspring.
How do we distinguish between Batman and Catwoman though. They would be turned into the same thing. "Animalperoffspring"

My head hurts.
 

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Reply #198 –
Hang on... the word 'person' must be destined for oblivion as well... it has the word 'son' in it, and that's masculine. Holy cr@p. We're all soon to be perpeople, hang on, that's plural... oh I give up  ;)  ::)
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Reply #199 –
We can all rest easy now... Hasbro has had a change of heart re making Mr Potato Head gender neutral. Mr Potato Head is back, and Mrs Potato Head is relieved. Common sense has prevailed... hallelujah!
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Reply #200 –
Its been fun guys, but this will only end in the movement eating itself.

Eventually the political right will put an end to this nonsense and everyone will stand by and applaud it.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #201 –
As much as I hate to state this, because I hate potentially discounting genuine events, it looks like #MeToo_v2 is about to surface in Australian media and politics.

Serious allegations must be supported with serious evidence, we can never allow the judicial system to descend into a Kangaroo Court of unsubstantiated allegations supported by unsubstantiated opinions.

Already we have the Sexual Assault version of VAERS running, where anonymous individuals can publicly blog unsubstantiated claims against pretty much an unlimited number of organisations and individuals. I fear for the people running these blogs, they probably have good intent, but they could well find themselves on the end of very serious and very substantial defamation cases.

It's an oldy but a goody, two wrongs do not make a right!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #202 –
Quote from: LP – on
As much as I hate to state this, because I hate potentially discounting genuine events, it looks like #MeToo_v2 is about to surface in Australian media and politics.

Serious allegations must be supported with serious evidence, we can never allow the judicial system to descend into a Kangaroo Court of unsubstantiated allegations supported by unsubstantiated opinions.

Already we have the Sexual Assault version of VAERS running, where anonymous individuals can publicly blog unsubstantiated claims against pretty much an unlimited number of organisations and individuals. I fear for the people running these blogs, they probably have good intent, but they could well find themselves on the end of very serious and very substantial defamation cases.

It's an oldy but a goody, two wrongs do not make a right!
The Attorney General no less, has identified himself as the man at the centre of historical rape allegations.
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Reply #203 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
The Attorney General no less, has identified himself as the man at the centre of historical rape allegations.
As much as I love it, this is an example of where The Conversation has run off the rails;

Quote from: The Conversation
So what now? Well, for one thing, says Michelle Arrow, women need to harness the rage that has built up in recent weeks. And that means turning the fury into a list of concrete demands for change, just as the women’s movement did in the 1970s. Rage is politically potent, and useful. But to make the most of it they need not only to get angry — they need to get organised.
The call is that there is no justice or that justice has failed, but there is no evidence either just an accusation unsupported by evidence, the plethora of voices offer unsupported opinion not evidence, the paragraph effectively calls for mob rule not really a demand for justice because there is no burden of proof in any of the demands.

The question of guilt is irrelevant in this, for me the problem is the procedural issues they want to bypass to allow the court of media and social media to rule.

I'm all for change, but it can't come at the potential persecution of the innocent in the absence of proof, it's somewhat ironic that the left calls for this given they demand we free teenage criminals caught in the act, but they want to hang draw and quarter the old white man without proof!

I read once that a female comedian made the feminist call in the USA, "Kill all white men", but qualified the call to arms with the disclaimer, " ........... but not my dad!" Apparently it was a joke, yet if I were to light heartedly include in a joke, "Do you think your ar5e looks big in that ..................................!" it's not so much funny and far more a misogynist sexual innuendo! Such is the hypocrisy of social media!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #204 –
Drunk on power LP.  Kenneally and SHY leading the charge of course.

EDIT - Should add that wasn't a political comment, but it was on personalities

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Reply #205 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Drunk on power LP.  Kenneally and SHY leading the charge of course.

EDIT - Should add that wasn't a political comment, but it was on personalities
As a casual observer, I just do not understand the thought that they can publicly make those assertions and not have some regard for the possibility the claims are false, based on the public evidence it's a coin toss! I gather that is why the police withdrew the charges, they nothing to work with!

If an enquiry is launched and clears Porter, surely the risk is the blow torch turns to the accusers, as discussed in that other famous thread freedom of speech does not engender freedom from responsibility or consequence. There are those already labelling the in media debate around "due process" as "Mansplaining", this is not what humanity represents.

I appreciate there is no justice for a person who takes their own life, and that applies equally whether the reasons given are real or imaginary!

I'm very sensitive to this, because I know a family with a young lad who was falsely accused of similar and almost took his life over it. Years later after some external events the young girl tried to unsuccessfully kill herself, she couldn't live with her own conscience and in recovery admitted making it all up to defend her honour to her parents. The fear of social media repercussions where the ultimate driver in both events! The social pressure for her to be perceived as a good girl, untarnished in her own cultural circles, drove the events that unfolded over many years.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #206 –
It’s interesting that murder charges proceed without the victim but rape cases can’t.

I know that the rape victim’s testimony is important in establishing whether or not the act was consensual but it still seems to me that other forms of evidence may be equally relevant.

I noticed that the SA coroner has determined that the police report into the victim’s death is inadequate and has directed that further investigations be made.

I had another look at the Four Corners report and it would make me very uncomfortable if Porter was in close proximity to any of my female family members.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #207 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I had another look at the Four Corners report and it would make me very uncomfortable if Porter was in close proximity to any of my female family members.
I'd be cautious, it looks to me like the media have mashed together a series of rumours, but all built form the same basic premise but distorted in a pass the message manner. The tell for me is that the reports in the main stream media seem to contradict.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #208 –
Looks like developments on this front.  Hmmm ....

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Reply #209 –
Quote from: DJC – on
It’s interesting that murder charges proceed without the victim but rape cases can’t.

I know that the rape victim’s testimony is important in establishing whether or not the act was consensual but it still seems to me that other forms of evidence may be equally relevant.

I noticed that the SA coroner has determined that the police report into the victim’s death is inadequate and has directed that further investigations be made.

I had another look at the Four Corners report and it would make me very uncomfortable if Porter was in close proximity to any of my female family members.
Agree, watching Porter is uncomfortable and I just kept thinking of that poor girl/woman and her sad passing and what her family are going through with all this rehash of events. The age factor bothers me ....
ScoMo has a few issues on his plate with his bonehead minister Linda Reynolds making some offensive comments that have come to light about the parliment staffer who also claims to have been raped.The Minister should resign IMO based on her comments..disgraceful, I wouldnt want my children working in any parliamentary dept based on her attitude.
I dont have a lot of confidence the truth will come out in any of the above and I just expected better in this day and age...