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Re: General Discussions

Reply #1275 –
Quote from: Mav – on
The fact that you might not be able to put your finger on what activates your gut immediately doesn’t mean it will forever remain that way. The subconscious mind may merely be ahead of the conscious mind. Once you realise what put you on edge, you’d be pretty well placed to figure out whether your gut was being smart or just biased.

Doesn't mean you will either. Use Baggers as an example, you reckon he knows why all these years later?

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Reply #1276 –
And we don’t know what became of Melissa Caddick. Some things will remain a mystery.

But if you’re a cop who conducted a search, it might behove you to be able to articulate what attracted your suspicion when you get to Court.
 

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Reply #1277 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Reality is the lovers of Coon cheese are in the minority with this situation and the wider community expect to see the word Coon removed from the Vocabulary in Aus and any jobs lost won't be taken into account.
In fact the surname will probably disappear over time as well in Australia imho.
If by wider community you mean the majority, I would beg to differ. I'd be fascinated to see some sort of "head count". Apart from this forum/thread, every time I have heard this type of topic (ie name changes) discussed amongst the varying groups of people I associate and interact with both at work and socially, the overwhelming majority I have witnessed first hand have the "what a crock of crap" or "who gives a fork" attitude. Do I need to choose my friends, family and work colleagues more carefully?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #1278 –
Quote from: Mav – on
And we don’t know what became of Melissa Caddick. Some things will remain a mystery.


As Benjamin Franklin once wrote and the Hells Angels live by, "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead". Nothing mysterious about it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #1279 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If by wider community you mean the majority, I would beg to differ. I'd be fascinated to see some sort of "head count". Apart from this forum/thread, every time I have heard this type of topic (ie name changes) discussed amongst the varying groups of people I associate and interact with both at work and socially, the overwhelming majority I have witnessed first hand have the "what a crock of crap" or "who gives a fork" attitude. Do I need to choose my friends, family and work colleagues more carefully?
The company must have thought the community wanted the wording changed else they wouldnt have bothered changing it to Cheers in Oz and costing them money in the short term. I'm sure they would have done some marketing surveys before making that decision..

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Reply #1280 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The company must have thought the community wanted the wording changed else they wouldnt have bothered changing it to Cheers in Oz and costing them money in the short term. I'm sure they would have done some marketing surveys before making that decision..

That would make common sense EB but common sense ain't so common these days.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #1281 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Doesn't mean you will either. Use Baggers as an example, you reckon he knows why all these years later?

Somewhat, even my Neuropsychologist buddy was fascinated. He did have me do a series of abstract IQ tests and concluded that perhaps with the apparently high test results that was a significant factor, along with the hyper-vigilance that comes with PTSD. Otherwise, just accept it as unexplainable for the time being. Investigations continue.
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Reply #1282 –
Quote from: Mav – on
And we don’t know what became of Melissa Caddick. Some things will remain a mystery.

But if you’re a cop who conducted a search, it might behove you to be able to articulate what attracted your suspicion when you get to Court.

Perhaps Liam Neeson needs to be assigned to the case? ;D
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #1283 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The company must have thought the community wanted the wording changed else they wouldnt have bothered changing it to Cheers in Oz and costing them money in the short term. I'm sure they would have done some marketing surveys before making that decision..


Yep. Brand protection?
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Reply #1284 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Yep. Brand protection?
I think so,strategy would have been to take a hit in the short term losing a few older customers who wouldnt recognize the new naming but pick up some new customers with a marketing campaign explaining the change and hoping to be rewarded by showing some understanding of the hurt the wording was causing and thus making them a good corporate citizen which may help also with other products they sell under the company banner. Never been a fan of the product myself but it has been a household name for many years when you and I were growing up but as DJ pointed out its not a major contributor of company earnings.
We were more Cracker Barrel eaters which is also under the Saputo banner........the following is a guide to all the dairy stuff Saputo owns  in Aus which shows you how small an impact Cheer is on their earnings..
https://guide.ethical.org.au/company/?company=1953
Also shows the pros and cons of the company as corporate citizens.....and I reckon they would like to improve their rankings.

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Reply #1285 –
Change of topic, I must be getting old but the mere sight and/or sound of the following people just grinds my gears. Top 5 in no particular order:
1. Kevin Sheedy
2. Grace Tame
3. Greta Thunberg
4. Donald Trump
5. Waleed Aly (or anyone from The Project)
Is it just me?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #1286 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Change of topic, I must be getting old but the mere sight and/or sound of the following people just grinds my gears. Top 5 in no particular order:
1. Kevin Sheedy
2. Grace Tame
3. Greta Thunberg
4. Donald Trump
5. Waleed Aly (or anyone from The Project)
Is it just me?
Bit of a theme going on there, something to do with people who overshare?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1287 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If by wider community you mean the majority, I would beg to differ. I'd be fascinated to see some sort of "head count". Apart from this forum/thread, every time I have heard this type of topic (ie name changes) discussed amongst the varying groups of people I associate and interact with both at work and socially, the overwhelming majority I have witnessed first hand have the "what a crock of crap" or "who gives a fork" attitude. Do I need to choose my friends, family and work colleagues more carefully?
+1 with the following added it being a sign of the times we live in.  Cancel culture is currently trendy and this was an easy one to get across the line because even the staunchest of defenders for coon cheese couldn't argue a case for keeping that name.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Change of topic, I must be getting old but the mere sight and/or sound of the following people just grinds my gears. Top 5 in no particular order:
1. Kevin Sheedy
2. Grace Tame
3. Greta Thunberg
4. Donald Trump
5. Waleed Aly (or anyone from The Project)
Is it just me?


Not just you.  All of them come across as incredibly hypocritical in some ways.  All of them have different ick factors.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1288 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Change of topic, I must be getting old but the mere sight and/or sound of the following people just grinds my gears. Top 5 in no particular order:
1. Kevin Sheedy
2. Grace Tame
3. Greta Thunberg
4. Donald Trump
5. Waleed Aly (or anyone from The Project)
Is it just me?

I'll give you four out of five.
With Grace Tame we have to understand that she has been very damaged by her experiences.
Unless we've had similar experiences we can't possibly understand the depth of feeling and the impact.

We see her being standoffish and dismissive with a Prime Minister, and some get a feeling of 'that's a bit rude.'
Some of us are stronger than others in coping.
But the impact of abuse is more often than not life long.
That will affect the actions, words and behaviour of even the strongest.
I suspect, rightly or wrongly, that Grace often gets the feeling that the supportive words of some folk are not 100% genuine and she finds it difficult to suffer them with a smiley face all the time.
There's an anger there that's hard to hide.
It's a bit off-putting to some folks who think she perhaps needs to harden up and move on but it's a struggle we can never really understand unless we've experienced it.

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Reply #1289 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Difference!

Many years ago something like racism was based on the feeling of superiority of one group over another.
Nowadays it's more about a 'difference' and a lack of understanding and appreciation of another group.

Yep. Same page here. Difference, for some, causes fear... others, fascination. Studies have also shown, quite conclusively, that prejudice is taught, it's not in our DNA.

I know from my own experience of being brought up in a home where different races were invited in and accepted - the labourers my father employed for his business as well as all kinds of fascinating friends. Also they had a number of gay friends who were also invited in and treated no differently to anyone else, pretty unheard of then... but my father was a text book socialist. I recall, even, around 1971 when his business was in big trouble financially (ripped off by Ron Walker... story for another day), he mortgaged the house so he could keep paying his labourers... how dare he betray capitalism like that as a business owner (landscaping). He was always confident in his own ability and that he would get back on his feet - he did. His labourers never knew.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17