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Reply #2055 –
This might be quite possibly the greatest Freudian Slip in the history of profession media!


Reporting of Nine News by News Ltd

I think it even trumps Isa Guha infamous MVP, and that's saying something!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2056 –
Quote from: LP – on
This might be quite possibly the greatest Freudian Slip in the history of profession media!


Reporting of Nine News by News Ltd

I think it even trumps Isa Guha infamous MVP, and that's saying something!
A grubby Airline exec and a grubby Radio personality...I can see how the mistake was made🤔

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Reply #2057 –
A quick return to the welcome to country discussion - did anyone catch the ceremony at our Sunshine Coast training camp?

It was obviously focused on our players and coaches and not a huge crowd of spectators and it seems like the engagement  and shared experience between the TOs and our players and coaches was outstanding and appreciated by all.  That's what welcome to country should be, both in terms of occasion and execution. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #2058 –
Quote from: DJC – on
A quick return to the welcome to country discussion - did anyone catch the ceremony at our Sunshine Coast training camp?

It was obviously focused on our players and coaches and not a huge crowd of spectators and it seems like the engagement  and shared experience between the TOs and our players and coaches was outstanding and appreciated by all.  That's what welcome to country should be, both in terms of occasion and execution.

Maybe the small intimate nature of that ceremony is the key.
There is probably more chance of an interaction, and greater impact on those receiving the welcome, between the two parties at that level.

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Reply #2059 –
Quote from: DJC – on
A quick return to the welcome to country discussion - did anyone catch the ceremony at our Sunshine Coast training camp?

It was obviously focused on our players and coaches and not a huge crowd of spectators and it seems like the engagement  and shared experience between the TOs and our players and coaches was outstanding and appreciated by all.  That's what welcome to country should be, both in terms of occasion and execution. 

Agree 100%. Loved watching it. It featured one of my favourite words, 'inclusion.' Seeing the players joining in was just fantastic... would have given them a sense of the 'spirit' of the occasion from an indigenous Aussie perspective through joining in. Next level bonding stuff and a wonderful statement of 'respect.'
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #2060 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: DJC – on
A quick return to the welcome to country discussion - did anyone catch the ceremony at our Sunshine Coast training camp?

It was obviously focused on our players and coaches and not a huge crowd of spectators and it seems like the engagement  and shared experience between the TOs and our players and coaches was outstanding and appreciated by all.  That's what welcome to country should be, both in terms of occasion and execution.

Maybe the small intimate nature of that ceremony is the key.
There is probably more chance of an interaction, and greater impact on those receiving the welcome, between the two parties at that level.

Onto something there, Principal LODS. Perhaps in WTC presentations we can begin to incorporate other Aussie cultures to join in the welcome? A demonstration of co-operation and acknowledgement through participation.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #2061 –
If conspiracy theories are real, they've done an excellent job with the Paul McCartney replacement.
He's much more talented (and durable) than the original. :D

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Reply #2062 –
You'd be a bit nervous if you owned property along Point Nepean Road on the Mornington Peninsula.

The house damaged in the morning landslide was at the bend of Penny Lane, McRae. The media are reporting it as a house collapse like the structure failed, but it looks like the land bank well above the rear of the property has slipped / subsided and collapsed onto the build below.

The damaged house is shown as No.3 in the Google Map page below, the land above it between No.12 and No.6 has collapsed.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/MCrae/@-38.3463251,144.9349932,98m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D



You can see why I urge people to be careful about accepting media reports without question, whoever built No.3 might well go broke without fault simply because of the way the media report it.

You have to wonder how the insurer will spin it!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2063 –
I don’t know what media you follow LP but every report I’ve seen/heard puts it down to a landslip or landslide.  The house was vacated and cordoned off after a landslide last week and a shire officer was onsite when today’s landslide occurred.

Two other houses in the vicinity have been vacant for over two years because of concerns over their stability following another landslide.  The now destroyed house was temporarily vacated after that landslide … and the then owners sold it shortly thereafter.

Looks like there’ll be plenty of work for engineers and geomorphologists and lots of very concerned home owners and shire officers.  Lawyers will be gathering like blowflies around a carcass.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

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Reply #2064 –
Can we have some news articles surrounding this at all?  I've got a place im mccrae.  Not concerned as it ain't on stilts, and is on the Arthur's seat side of the freeway but I'm always curious to be in the know.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #2066 –
I'm a bit surprised these places do not look that old, but they might be new veneers on old structures.

Much of the steeper Mornington Peninsula terrain requires heavy engineering for modern builds, all the way from Oliver's Hill to Sorrento they now basically stabilise sloping ground using massive pins they drive in with drilling rigs, or they drill foundations to rock, but that is rarely viable.

A lot of places along that stretch are old holiday homes, they can be visually elaborate but the structures rarely matches the veneer as they are built to a price. I've mates who live that way and one of them had to sink 6m holes just to pass code on foundations for a 2m retaining wall.

Of course we can only talk in general terms, and I'm glad they are now reporting the landslips.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2067 –
Quote from: LP – on
I'm a bit surprised these places do not look that old, but they might be new veneers on old structures.

Much of the steeper Mornington Peninsula terrain requires heavy engineering for modern builds, all the way from Oliver's Hill to Sorrento they now basically stabilise sloping ground using massive pins they drive in with drilling rigs, or they drill foundations to rock, but that is rarely viable.

A lot of places along that stretch are old holiday homes, they can be visually elaborate but the structures rarely matches the veneer as they are built to a price. I've mates who live that way and one of them had to sink 6m holes just to pass code on foundations for a 2m retaining wall.

Of course we can only talk in general terms, and I'm glad they are now reporting the landslips.

All houses require engineering.

Concrete piers are common place even on flat ground.

Retaining walls require at a minimum at least the height above the ground into the ground and thats just for the little ones. Bigger ones require bigger foundations.

Nothing unusual about anything you've said.

In this modern age everyone is paranoid about being sued, so everything is overengineered.

That being said, mother nature is still capable of levelling anything if she wishes.

If houses were built to withstand the above types of scenarios, nobody would be able to afford them as they'd cost 5 times more than they do now.....and people can't afford them now.

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Reply #2068 –
Quote from: LP – on
I'm a bit surprised these places do not look that old, but they might be new veneers on old structures.

Much of the steeper Mornington Peninsula terrain requires heavy engineering for modern builds, all the way from Oliver's Hill to Sorrento they now basically stabilise sloping ground using massive pins they drive in with drilling rigs, or they drill foundations to rock, but that is rarely viable.

A lot of places along that stretch are old holiday homes, they can be visually elaborate but the structures rarely matches the veneer as they are built to a price. I've mates who live that way and one of them had to sink 6m holes just to pass code on foundations for a 2m retaining wall.

Of course we can only talk in general terms, and I'm glad they are now reporting the landslips.

I was listening to first responders on the scene this morning on the wireless and they were talking about the landslides, past and present.

The house that slid downslope was a three story building that was only 25 years old. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #2069 –
Several hours after this incident there was a call to Radio 693 from a woman who said that she lived a street or 2 away.

She said that water had been running from the top of the hill for several weeks, the volume similar to that from a fire hose.  In addition, she said that council had been advised of the problem on a number of occasions.