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Re: General Discussions

Reply #2340 –
You can look at the Crime Statistics Agency website to see Victoria's crime rates and trends.  With the exception of property and deception offences, criminal incident rates have stayed remarkably stable over the last five years.

I think that Thry is on the money with his analysis.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: General Discussions

Reply #2341 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
We were confronted by an intruder in our house about a year ago now. Long story but my partner was traumatised at the time and has only recently begun to get back to normal. We must get these thugs out of society but we have little confidence in our present state government.

Tell your partner they will be fine, the numbers are good.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

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Reply #2342 –
I worked with masina halvagis mum back at kmart in Burwood.

She was stabbed at the cemetery if anyone remembers. I reckon people are more fearful.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #2343 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I worked with masina halvagis mum back at kmart in Burwood.

She was stabbed at the cemetery if anyone remembers. I reckon people are more fearful.

Yes, that was a terrible crime by the serial killer, whose name I won't mention. That really put the wind up folk, and particularly women, back in the late 1990s.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #2344 –
It would certainly be interesting to compare crime rates over the last 20 or 30 years, and also to compare our crime rates to other developed countries. The psychological aspects would also be interesting to look at. There has never been, nor will there ever be, any place that has a 0% crime rate, so there must be some emotional or practical trigger that would cause people to feel worried or unsafe, and conversely some state of affairs that would make people feel safe.

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Reply #2345 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
We were confronted by an intruder in our house about a year ago now. Long story but my partner was traumatised at the time and has only recently begun to get back to normal. We must get these thugs out of society but we have little confidence in our present state government.

Tell your partner they will be fine, the numbers are good.

Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #2346 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.

I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.

One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.

This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.

Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions. 

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #2347 –
All the fire bombing we are seeing on the news must be CGI.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #2349 –
Yawn yawn, good night folks.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #2350 –
Folk regurgitating media beat ups don’t help either.

It’s a 21st century phenomenon; the facts don’t matter because uninformed punters know better.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #2351 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.

I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.

One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.

This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.

Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions. 


Anxiety is higher now because the crims are winning and the laws favour rehabilitation over punishment.
You add the shortfall in Police numbers Australia wide and crime is now a career choice...

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Reply #2352 –
If you want to punish kids for crimes all you will achieve is the production of “better” criminals…
Younger kids in particular need intervention and diversion to steer them back to productive lives.
To pull a figure out of my butt there’s probably 1% that should be incarcerated for life, the rest can be constructive humans but money and programs need to be funded now, in the long term they are heaps cheaper than building more prisons that take us back to the “better” criminals.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #2353 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: DJC – on


I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.

One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.

This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.

Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions. 


Anxiety is higher now because the crims are winning and the laws favour rehabilitation over punishment.
You add the shortfall in Police numbers Australia wide and crime is now a career choice...

Once again, a claim that is not borne out by the facts.  Incarceration rates have increased from about 100 per 100,000 people in the late 1960s to over 200 per 100,000 by 2021 and that's despite crime rates not increasing significantly.

There was a shortfall of more than 4,500 police officers Australia wide in 2024 but just 800 vacancies in Victoria.  The situation isn't helped by lucrative superannuation schemes that encourage early retirement.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #2354 –
The problem is an issue of perception, everyone is influenced by what they see and hear, you think you can escape the influence but you cannot!

Even when you know about it, the exposure still changes the decisions you make, the perspective you take and your conclusions. It's why science and engineering use double blind testing.

The numbers never lie, it's the perceptions and conclusions the people get wrong.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"