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November 30, 2020, 07:57:42 pm

All the SPS admirers thinking he needs to play midfield, think again

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/839141/carlton-s-mr-fix-it-amos-update-on-petrevski-seton?fbclid=IwAR2qBBPAIwzbsvwnRKbHJyNrzqWrNNBRSavj2Z6vBVAlDKTuaH5pjAXw12w

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Reply #1 – November 30, 2020, 08:06:06 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on November 30, 2020, 07:57:42 pm

All the SPS admirers thinking he needs to play midfield, think again

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/839141/carlton-s-mr-fix-it-amos-update-on-petrevski-seton?fbclid=IwAR2qBBPAIwzbsvwnRKbHJyNrzqWrNNBRSavj2Z6vBVAlDKTuaH5pjAXw12w

Judging by the recruiting and also by the noise coming out of the club, it sounds like pace and attacking flair is a big priority. It's the right move IMO to use SPS as an attacking defender. Both he and Saad could conceivably play higher up then the other defenders. I'll be most interested to see what we serve up in the first few games.

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Reply #2 – November 30, 2020, 08:23:58 pm

Quote from: PaulP – on November 30, 2020, 08:06:06 pm

Judging by the recruiting and also by the noise coming out of the club, it sounds like pace and attacking flair is a big priority. It's the right move IMO to use SPS as an attacking defender. Both he and Saad could conceivably play higher up then the other defenders. I'll be most interested to see what we serve up in the first few games.

Perhaps Pauly, only problem I see is SPS has no leg speed.

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Reply #3 – November 30, 2020, 08:33:06 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on November 30, 2020, 08:23:58 pm

Perhaps Pauly, only problem I see is SPS has no leg speed.

No, he's not fast, I agree. But having an attacking flair and good instincts can compensate for the lack of speed, to a degree. The thing that worried me was hearing Amos talk about him as a potential Mr Fix It, something which usually results in whipping boy status and unrealised potential. Just ask Bryce.

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Reply #4 – November 30, 2020, 10:20:45 pm

I don't understand this peronally. He has to play on instinct because he doesn't know how to play half back. How many half backs do we have that do know how to play half back. Why not use one of them, or our new recruits?

Jones and Weitering are a lock for the KP. So who else plays down back?

I'll be generous, pick 6 from the following and 2 can play wings as well.

SPS, Docherty, Plowman, Newman, Williamson, Saad, Williams, Marchbank, Stocker.

How many mid spots have you got left now? Who misses from there?

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Reply #5 – December 01, 2020, 07:47:09 am

Quote from: kruddler – on November 30, 2020, 10:20:45 pm

SPS, Docherty, Plowman, Newman, Williamson, Saad, Williams, Marchbank, Stocker.

How many mid spots have you got left now? Who misses from there?

Depth: isn't it nice to have some, for the first time in years. I hope we have this problem a lot, as I'm tired of having half of our team sitting in the stands. We haven't finished a season with anything close to a full list since the mid-90's. Teams like Richmond and Brisbane have full lists come finals time, and what do they do?

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Reply #6 – December 01, 2020, 08:20:56 am

SPS doesn't defend, Saad doesn't want to pick up a man either.

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Reply #7 – December 01, 2020, 08:34:13 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on December 01, 2020, 08:20:56 am

SPS doesn't defend, Saad doesn't want to pick up a man either.

EB to my surprise, he conceded very few goals.
From the article:
Champion Data stats show that Petrevski-Seton conceded less than a goal a game to his direct opponent this year, including having no goals conceded between Rounds 11 and 17.

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Reply #8 – December 01, 2020, 09:01:49 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on December 01, 2020, 08:34:13 am

EB to my surprise, he conceded very few goals.
From the article:
Champion Data stats show that Petrevski-Seton conceded less than a goal a game to his direct opponent this year, including having no goals conceded between Rounds 11 and 17.

Yes, if Samo is getting the pill and his opponent isn’t, he is defending.

It seemed to me that there were times when he was unsure whether he had the time to get the ball to a teammate and got pinged for holding the ball or turned it over. Experience should help to minimise those situations.

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Reply #9 – December 01, 2020, 09:05:41 am

I thought SPS began to look a lot better this year imo, and restored some faith that he may well become a very good player for us. Prior to that I definitely had significant doubts about him.

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Reply #10 – December 01, 2020, 09:11:48 am

He needs to recover his tackling ability and work on his linking with slick passes by hand and foot. I'm somewhat hopeful

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Reply #11 – December 01, 2020, 11:38:32 am

If our back line is to come from SPS, Weitering, Marchbank, Docherty, Jones, Saad, Plowman, Newman & Williamson, with back ups from William, Casboult, Silvagni & McGovern, then we are in pretty good shape.

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Reply #12 – December 01, 2020, 11:42:26 am

I don't think our D50 has been a problem for years.

As far as I'm concerned, teams mostly score heavily against us because of a lack of run and chase from our F50 and Mids!

Fans go ballistic at guys like Plowman, SPS and Weitering for being too slow, losing their direct opponent, etc., etc., but they can't be left to frequently guard 2 or 3 opponents(Usually an opposition Forward supported by his Mids or even HBFs) and then expected our guys to come out winners every time, and it happens too often! In the meantime our Mids or Forwards are hanging around the 50m arc waiting for the turnover, or sprinting to the bench for a breather instead of sprinting after an opponent!

How many times playing against the Ferals do you see a Feral Mid blocking our Defender's run to give the Feral Forward a free run, it's like the Feral coach has it on replay! If you have a wide field view you get to watch our Mids running to the interchange as this is happening in the opposition's forward pocket!

Carlton Forwards and Mids have to hunt opponents over the whole playing surface, not just when they are within kicking range of goal!

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Reply #13 – December 01, 2020, 05:05:20 pm

We concede most of our goals from the turnover.

That usually happens when a team is switching from defense to attack, and then a turnover occurs.

I think one of our previous stats was conceding from turnovers where we were ranked at the wrong end of that scale and one of the reasons 2020 was positive for us, was that trend was well and truly reversed.

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Reply #14 – December 01, 2020, 05:32:33 pm

Quote from: cookie2 – on December 01, 2020, 09:05:41 am

I thought SPS began to look a lot better this year imo, and restored some faith that he may well become a very good player for us. Prior to that I definitely had significant doubts about him.

I don't see it personally, still looks like he picks and chooses, dinky 15m sideways, frustrates the bejesus out of me. I'll lay London to a Brick that if he played for another mob, many here wouldn't rate him and would be very critical of him.