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Reply #1845 –
Bingo.  Indecisive and flits from plan to plan too fast....chases the game instead of setting up play
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Reply #1846 –
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Was extremely unimpressed at Sutherlands captaincy at the renegades this year. 
Doesn't appear to be Captain material to me. Too inconsistent himself and doesn't show the grit a Captain can provide.

But he's the son of, so will get more opportunity...

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Reply #1847 –
Ben Stokes the first victim from the Bazball era to fall on his sword and retire from International cricket. The English are about lose a home series to New Zealand and Id expect there to be more fallout with a couple more big names to follow.
The Stokes/McCullum relationship was strained and there was the recent nightclub incident as well and I think Stokes has decided its all to hard be English Captain despite his good form especially with the ball of late. He did say the last Ashes defeat took a lot out of him but for me its more about the politics and expectations of English cricket weighing him down.
Sad to see such a gun cricketer leave the game and it will be interesting to see if England go with another troubled player in Harry Brook as their next captain given he is the vice captain or they turn back the clock and give Joe Root the job until they find a find a new Stokes.

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Reply #1848 –
Yet another nightclub incident hints at bigger problems! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1849 –
Bazball is no more after coach Brendon McCullum was sent on his way from his role of test team coach while retaining his role as white ball coach where he is better suited. It was fun while it lasted for 4 years but Englands test results were deplorable overall and Id expect a return to old style English cricket values and a more conservative approach.

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Reply #1850 –
RIP Sir Garfield Sobers.

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Reply #1851 –
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RIP Sir Garfield Sobers.
Yes a very sad loss. He was one of my true heroes in my youth and I got to watch him on a couple of occasions. RIP.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1852 –
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RIP Sir Garfield Sobers.
Yes a very sad loss. He was one of my true heroes in my youth and I got to watch him on a couple of occasions. RIP.
Watched him make 250 odd for the world eleven vs Aus at the MCG, could do everything , bat, bowl pace, spin and was a brilliant fielder. I think Ian Chappell called him the best cricketer he played against....
RIP...

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Reply #1853 –
I only know of SGS from the old Gillete (I think) commercials where they said he became the first man to hit 6 sixes in an over in 1968. Even from that footage, he looked a very smooth mover (as all left handers generally do).
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Reply #1854 –
In my teen years I worked and trained at an ICC where Gary worked and had his small cricket gear shop, and he also offered some coaching. I was a net bowler for the WSC crew. He hated being called Sir Gary or Sir Garfield, and would correct you in the gruff voice "Call me Gary!" When the WSC bowlers were being coached I'd get to have a bat, Gary would stand behind the net giving me tips. He was the exact opposite of most coaches, he didn't try to change your technique to make you look classical, he'd look at your strengths and weakness and work on them without trying to make you look like a Greg Chappell. The year after he started giving me free coaching I scored a double century in suburban cricket, I'd changed from an opening bowler low order batsmen to an opening batsmen all rounder.

I don't want to trigger anyone who might be a fan, but as good as he was at cricket he had a lot of troubles off the field, drinking was a big problem, I'm not sure he ever got the better of it. I believe he was arrested multiple time for D&D and also for domestic violence orders, really for all his fame it's quite a sad story. I talked to a police officer once who was standing the carpark when they come to "give him a lift", a euphemism I'm sure, he told me Sobers was his childhood hero but he couldn't see him in the same light, it sounds a bit like Winmar. I've meet Winamr too, and he seemed a terrific person, but I suppose we only ever get to see one side of life.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1855 –
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In my teen years I worked and trained at an ICC where Gary worked and had his small cricket gear shop, and he also offered some coaching. I was a net bowler for the WSC crew. He hated being called Sir Gary or Sir Garfield, and would correct you in the gruff voice "Call me Gary!" When the WSC bowlers were being coached I'd get to have a bat, Gary would stand behind the net giving me tips. He was the exact opposite of most coaches, he didn't try to change your technique to make you look classical, he'd look at your strengths and weakness and work on them without trying to make you look like a Greg Chappell. The year after he started giving me free coaching I scored a double century in suburban cricket, I'd changed from an opening bowler low order batsmen to an opening batsmen all rounder.

I don't want to trigger anyone who might be a fan, but as good as he was at cricket he had a lot of troubles off the field, drinking was a big problem, I'm not sure he ever got the better of it. I believe he was arrested multiple time for D&D and also for domestic violence orders, really for all his fame it's quite a sad story. I talked to a police officer once who was standing the carpark when they come to "give him a lift", a euphemism I'm sure, he told me Sobers was his childhood hero but he couldn't see him in the same light, it sounds a bit like Winmar. I've meet Winamr too, and he seemed a terrific person, but I suppose we only ever get to see one side of life.
He did have problems with drinking and was behind the wheel during an accident which cost a teammate his life back in 1959 but I think the cricket culture of drinking which is still alive and well today was to blame for him having continual issues through his career and life.
Interesting story about Sir Gary was he was born with an extra finger on each hand.....which he removed with cat gut and a knife...as a child 😲
 

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Reply #1856 –
My old man saw Bradman, played with Miller etc and was adamant that Sobers was the best cricketer ever, daylight second.  Not even an argument in his mind. Still have a Slazenger "Gary Sober 365 n.o. test special". RIP champ.
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