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Reply #1965 –
Aus Cricket Board went over the top with their punishments.  ICC suspended them for one match (from memory) - in line with the other players from other countries.

There is not a bowler who doesn't have interest in the condition of the ball from international to F grade park cricket - they all would have seen it and noticed if it had changed.

I'm so over the beat up.

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Reply #1966 –
Yep, so over this, don't know who to believe anymore and sick of the the outright f#####g hypocrisy from others, let's not talk about match fixing and manipulation, shoulder charging players, overt racism or straight out cheating through diddled pictures.  It's like the middle east - there are no "good" guys and "bad guys" they're all bent.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1967 –
I bag the media, but they are a million times smarter than Khwaja!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1968 –
Just an aside a bit of an anecdote.

I had heard about sweets being used before, but as a young cricketer I first overheard about a very particular brand / type of sweet used to varnish the pill from Tony Grieg. We were in the practise nets at VFL park where I had been acting as a net bowler for the WSC players. It wasn't because they were using or discussing the use of the sweets in WSC, but because he was explaining to someone how they did not work for the coating on the white cricket balls of that era.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1969 –
So basically he said she said, and still no closer to the truth.

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Reply #1970 –
In some ways the truth has already surfaced, there isn't a debate about whether there was or wasn't an issue, that is both settled and admitted.

Now it's more you too, but I'd assert it's pretty much everybody and the allegations are wrongly focussed, people in glass houses should beware!

Rescuers often drown while trying to save the drowning.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1971 –
If I remember correctly, several cases of ball tampering have been detected by the umpires noticing a change in the condition of the ball.

Cummins was pretty staunch in his rejection of Khawaja’s allegation and was somewhat Dan Andrews like in his willingness to stay and answer all questions put to him.

I’m none the wiser but I can’t help but think that those involved were incredibly naive to think that they wouldn’t get caught 🙄
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1972 –
Before HD Video, pretty much every bowler would be running their thumbnail around the seam on the way back the mark, every bowler at every level from every country. I'm sure it was always illegal, any attempt to tamper with the seam of the cricket ball is, but doing so was ubiquitous.

The thought back in the old days was that opening the seams increased both swing and seam, but actually it's since be proven to be bogus with results unable to be reproduced.

Now if it happens, it's more about damaging a dud pill to get it replaced with a new one, and there is one specific country that does this far far more than any other!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1973 –
Cricket Australia channeling their best AFL in terms of trying to sweep things under the carpet.
They haven't quite got the experience of the AFL and its come out from under the carpet to cause more grief.

Everyone would've known about it. Can't suspend a whole team, so had to go at someone(s) which they did.
 

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Reply #1974 –
ICC suspended 2 - for a match each.  Should have been the end of it.  If it was,  this rubbish wouldn't be going on. Khawaja cares - book sales - media cares.  People involved at the time care because they're dragged into it.  No one I know cares, but talk about it.  If only it would stop.

Just because people knew about the tampering, doesn't make them complicit.