Skip to main content ↑ ↓
Topic: University Research on Racism in the AFL (Read 19293 times) previous topic - next topic
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #30 –
Done the survey as well. Hope my answers were useful, but I may have brought in more questions than I answered. I couldn't even answer the one about my own ethnicity straight.
[1] All of my overseas born ancestors arrived in Australia between 1802 and 1882. So I have at least 4 native born generations of Australian in me. In the previous generation their were English, Scottish, Germans and Maltese and they links to damn near everywhere.
[2] I have ancestors from most European countries. The only countries I haven't found ancestors from yet are Albania, Bulgaria and Romania. And most of these people were the ruling class: kings, queens, princesses, princes, dukes, duchesses, earls, etc. But am I of their nationality when those ancestors are 1000 years old? or more? The oldest was a Welsh Chieftain who was born in 40 BC. Do I call myself a Frank, as I have Charlemagne as an ancestor along more than 40 lines? A Saxon, as I have Alfred the Great as an ancestor? A Roman, as I have Alexius Comnenus and Romanos IV as ancestors? A Viking? Ivar the Boneless was one of my ancestors, as was Thorfinn Skullsplitter and Olav the Holy. French? There are probably only a thousand or so people with a better claim to the Kingdom of France than I have. Or how about Asian? I have almost all of the Kings and Queens of Jerusalem as my ancestors. The Judges of Corsica. The Kings of Aragon, Castille, Navarre and Portugal. Prince Vladimir of Kiev. There is one line in my family tree that claims to have Parsifal and the Knights of the Grail as ancestors: like I believe that one! German Emperors. Lombard kings and nobles. Polish Piast rulers, the Arpad dynasty from Hungary. Where do I draw the line?
I just say that my ancestry is pan-European.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #31 –
Also done.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #32 –
Then again, maybe I should say I was born in a test tube and a replicator. It would avoid complex questions. :) :) :)
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #33 –
Interesting ancestral story crashlander. Thanks for completing and supporting the project.

Thanks also to PaulP and anyone else who has completed it.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #34 –
Done
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #35 –
Done

Racist comments were common back in the day but I haven't heard anything for many years.  Of course, sitting with Carlton supporters lessens the potential for poor behaviour  ;)
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #36 –
Quote from: theacademic – on
Interesting ancestral story crashlander. Thanks for completing and supporting the project.

Thanks also to PaulP and anyone else who has completed it.

No worries. I'd be keen to hear the results once your work is done. Assuming of course, it's ok to make these results public.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #37 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Done

Racist comments were common back in the day but I haven't heard anything for many years.  Of course, sitting with Carlton supporters lessens the potential for poor behaviour  ;)

Same
Playing and watching country football back in the day the racist remarks were around.
I dont attend live matches much these days but I have difficulty recalling hearing any such comments at AFL level in recent times.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #38 –
Same here. I’ve been sitting in the AFL Members area of the MCG, usually on the top deck, and the top deck of Docklands. I’d imagine if you wanted to have a go at a non-white player or umpire, you’d want to be close to the ground on the terraces. If you want to call out racist sledges from the top deck loud enough to be heard on the ground, you’re going to attract unwanted attention. That’s the only concern I have about the survey. I also answered that I couldn’t recall any racist comments but I doubt whether that’s evidence the AFL hasn’t got a problem in that regard.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #39 –
Back in the day I used to frequent the standing areas at games and some of the commentary there was really off I have say. Since all seating was introduced I can honestly say that things have improved out of sight. I can't remember the last time I heard anything of a racist nature.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #40 –
Thanks for your input everyone. I appreciate it.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #41 –
@theacademic

Might be time to pose my concerns that will become all too clear by the time you finish reading.

1.  How is this funded and for what purpose?
2.  What credentials, age and background do you or the university bring to the table that warrant or encourage the completion of this questionnaire?
3.  Over what period of time is this information collated?
4.  Is this done by state, by sport, by age group of the replies?
5.  What mechanisms do you have in place to discern what you believe to be honest responses from those that are not that might be parochial / biased or used in outright deceit to distort the numbers?  Committee?
6.  When and how will the results be published and to whom?

Thank you

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #42 –
Quote from: capcom – on
@theacademic

Might be time to pose my concerns that will become all to clear by the time you finish reading.

1.  How is this funded and for what purpose?
2.  What credentials, age and background do you or the university bring to the table that warrant or encourage the completion of this questionnaire?
3.  Over what period of time is this information collated?
4.  Is this done by state, by sport, by age group of the replies?
5.  What mechanisms do you have in place to discern what you believe to be honest responses from those that are not that might be parochial / biased or outright deceit to distort the numbers?  Committee?
6.  When and how will the results be published and to whom?

Thank you

Same page here, CC.

I would have thought research into racism in the family home, where it starts, would be far more revealing. Racism in the AFL is only symptomatic of our society and culture at large.

In addition you might want to research racism in all religions, and also in a variety of cultures & socioeconomic groups.

Then you might want to research what in our psychology predisposes certain types (and who they are) to prejudice, hate and fear. Now that's a project worth pursuing... there's already some very helpful information in this regard available.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
 

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #43 –
@capcom

Most of this information is located in the information sheet at the start of the survey, but here goes:

1.  The research carries no funding. It is purely an academic study.
2.  The choice is yours whether you want to complete it or not. If you check the status of the researchers involved in the information sheet, you will see they are well qualified to pursue this study.
3.  We are looking to collate the data in a period of two months.
4.  This is an AFL study, it is not measured state by state.
5. Every piece of research contains the threat of bias. In this case, whilst we can't control what people say we hope that by making the survey anonymous that people are as honest as they can be.
6.  The research will be published in academic journals as stated in the information sheet.

Thank you.

Re: University Research on Racism in the AFL

Reply #44 –
Quote from: theacademic – on
@capcom

Most of this information is located in the information sheet at the start of the survey, but here goes:

1.  The research carries no funding. It is purely an academic study.

For what reason is it "purely academic?"  Choice or design?

2.  The choice is yours whether you want to complete it or not. If you check the status of the researchers involved in the information sheet, you will see they are well qualified to pursue this study.

You didn't think that was necessary to enunciate in the information sheet?


3.  We are looking to collate the data in a period of two months.

Why such a short period and how many respondents might you expect?

4.  This is an AFL study, it is not measured state by state.

Football is played in every state and territory in the entire country, and the existing AFL competition across the five biggest states.  You're not interested in the response splits on state lines?  Did the AFL play any part whatsoever in the design or intent of this questionnaire?

5. Every piece of research contains the threat of bias. In this case, whilst we can't control what people say we hope that by making the survey anonymous that people are as honest as they can be.

And if they are clearly not intent to do so with fictitious or unsupported evidence?

6.  The research will be published in academic journals as stated in the information sheet.

How are your conclusions summarized and specifically noted given the proclivity of some sections of the media (should they wish) to sensationalize what they choose from the final "report"?

Thank you.