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Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #45 –
We outplayed the team who played in the grand final.
We dominated the team who played in the grand final for the first half.
We managed to hold on under enormous amount of pressure at the end.

We probably couldn't say any of the above at many (if any) points through the past decade.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #46 –
The team FEELS Different. It doesn’t feel like the bad old days. They feel fresh and new, no more baggage. 

I loved Murph but was pleased he had retired last night when I watched, like everyone the game had passed him by.

I just don’t feel these players are playing under that duress or X amount of ex coaches/first pick rhetoric. It feels… new.  And I farking love it.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #47 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
The team FEELS Different. It doesn’t feel like the bad old days. They feel fresh and new, no more baggage. 

I loved Murph but was pleased he had retired last night when I watched, like everyone the game had passed him by.

I just don’t feel these players are playing under that duress or X amount of ex coaches/first pick rhetoric. It feels… new.  And I farking love it.
Yep. To me, no-one looks confused or lost. Everyone appears to know their role, team structures and they execute. Sure, their will be bumps, but so far they look good.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #48 –
A Win is a win is a win.
That is all.

Last week was a 4th quarter masterclass. This week was a 1st half masterclass. Both were against quality opposition proven to be well superior to us for many years.

We’re adjusting to an overhaul of every department from the clubhouse foundations to the senior coach. Evidently the team are aiming to master the fundamentals of a new game plan. Further layers of complexity will  be added as the season goes on.

We are impacted by health protocol losing the senior coach and 2 from 22.

For the first time in decades the majority of commentary is positive. Seasoned commentators are discussing their Cripps man crushes on national tv🙄

We’re 2-0 for the first time in years. Regardless of any period of play or performance of any player, I’ll take that every day. It doesn’t mean we’re there yet but there’s something very promising unfolding on and off the field at Carlton.

Go Blues.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #49 –
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #50 –
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.
What happened to my old profile?????

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #51 –
Quote from: blueday – on
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.
Voss won't be targeting less than a full four qtrs!
 
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #52 –
Quote from: blueday – on
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.

The Premiership quarter we used to play in the good ol days.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #53 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉
Winning has always been bad for business. When we win the flag we might as well shut up the shop. :D

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #54 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Winning has always been bad for business. When we win the flag we might as well shut up the shop. :D
I think we’re still all shellshocked!!

Season 2022. Two games. Two wins. That was our wildest dreams! Esp after the crapshow that was the removal of Teague and the intent to get Clarko/Lyon and then getting Voss.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #55 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
A Win is a win is a win.
That is all.

Last week was a 4th quarter masterclass. This week was a 1st half masterclass. Both were against quality opposition proven to be well superior to us for many years.

We’re adjusting to an overhaul of every department from the clubhouse foundations to the senior coach. Evidently the team are aiming to master the fundamentals of a new game plan. Further layers of complexity will  be added as the season goes on.

We are impacted by health protocol losing the senior coach and 2 from 22.

For the first time in decades the majority of commentary is positive. Seasoned commentators are discussing their Cripps man crushes on national tv🙄

We’re 2-0 for the first time in years. Regardless of any period of play or performance of any player, I’ll take that every day. It doesn’t mean we’re there yet but there’s something very promising unfolding on and off the field at Carlton.

Go Blues.

Well said, LN.

I've watched the game again before commenting and your 'holistic' observations are spot on, IMHO.

This all just didn't suddenly happen (assuming we continue to improve so strongly), but it did take an objective, even ruthless, appraisal of our on field direction and while some things put in place over the years were very good (off field), other glaring errors were continuing.

It's a cumulative thing. MLG deserves acknowledgment for restoring financial responsibility and eventual stability, even strength. BB deserves acknowledgment for holding the place together during a period of dramatic and thorough rebuild which saw SOS and a new team of list managers, mostly, get it right. And let's not forget the important recruiting of The Terrier and psychologist, Tarah Kavanagh (and the resignation of certain tired Board Members and appointment of smart, experienced and relevant 'new blood').

The final pieces of the puzzle to give effective and strong guidance and direction to this list came from Sayers... then Cook and Vossy, then experienced assistants around Vossy.

Early days, and there will be problems, but at least we can be confident (though cautious confidence with the wounds of 2 decades of sub standard on field performance... bar the glimmer from Ratts) that we have the people who have the experience and skills to manage those problems, and the successes - which can be just as (if not more) requiring of robust competency.



Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #56 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
The Premiership quarter we used to play in the good ol days.
I heard one of the Blues from that era explaining how the "premiership quarter" originated. It was a radio interview and I can't even recall for sure who was being interviewed but I think it was Rhys-Jones. He was asked how it started and he said that the boys used to have a big night out on Friday night and were a bit dusty when they turned up for the game. That resulted in them being a bit lethargic in the 1st half. But after having a break at half-time, they were set to go in the 3rd quarter!

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #57 –
Another example of how legends develop from misunderstandings is Wayne Johnston's nickname "the Dominator". His career ended up making that nickname a true reflection of his performance in big games. But it didn't start out that way.

Apparently, he went with the boys to a disco and spent the night trying to chat up women but he crashed and burned badly. When he turned up for training, someone had given him the ironic nickname "the Dominator" as he hadn't dominated at all, much to the enjoyment of his teammates. Fair to say the Dominator ended up having the last laugh.
 

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #58 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉

Yes and some of those who have posted have found negatives  ::)

A win over last year's runners up with the coach absent, assistants responsible for lines they've never coached, preparation disrupted by COVID protocols, the loss of two of the better players from the last game, losing a key defender, and coping with some mystifying umpiring decisions should be celebrated joyously - while still keeping a lid on it of course  ;D

It's irrelevant that the Bulldogs came back at us; that was inevitable.  The huge positive was that we kept our composure and still won comfortably.

How good was Sam Walsh after virtually no pre-season?  It will be interesting to see how Vossy uses our 5 A-grade mids next week.

George Hewett did a number on the Bont and still racked up possessions; a great addition to the team.

The "how can I be a better teammate" mantra really seems to have changed the way we are going about our footy and there is so much to like about individual players and the way they are working together.  My favourite moment was a fail; Lochy O'Brien went back with the flight and almost made a miraculous spoil on the goal line.  The fact that it was a goal doesn't matter, his effort in getting to the goal line and attempting the spoil was "being a better teammate".  It typified our efforts all over the ground for four quarters.

I got a message from one of my sisters after the game; "We're back!"  I responded with "Where have you been?"  Then I realised that she meant our beloved Navy Blues ... and I reckon she's right  :)
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 2 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #59 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Yes and some of those who have posted have found negatives  ::)
- There is no problem discussing the imperfections, the opposition will look at them so no point ignoring them!

Quote from: DJC – on
How good was Sam Walsh after virtually no pre-season?  It will be interesting to see how Vossy uses our 5 A-grade mids next week.
- I can see Walsh spending more time forward than the others, given it is most likely one of Owies, Durdin or Fisher is an out. As much as some fans hate them I can't see Setterfield or LoB being omitted. Plowman probably stays given OMacs injury unless OMac gets up after the 10 day break. I presume Martin will be in and Fogarty out.

Quote from: DJC – on
George Hewett did a number on the Bont and still racked up possessions; a great addition to the team.

The "how can I be a better teammate" mantra really seems to have changed the way we are going about our footy and there is so much to like about individual players and the way they are working together.
- Yes, there is a clear difference to previous years.

Quote from: DJC – on
I got a message from one of my sisters after the game; "We're back!"  I responded with "Where have you been?"  Then I realised that she meant our beloved Navy Blues ... and I reckon she's right  :)
- There have been signs, patience is a virtue!
 
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"