Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #105 – May 12, 2022, 01:03:35 pm Had an interesting discussion last night with a welded on NSW Liberal. He reckons the Libs had already given up on the election, even before Deves was nominated by Scomo.The idea is that Scomo thinks he's going to do a bit of a John Howard and has put people into place to give himself the front running to be the Liberal leader for the next election, and that all his most likely challengers are going to become collateral damage this election. Scomo looking after Scomo long term.Behind the scenes, at grass roots level, the Libs membership is being decimated, with the controlling factions appearing to have sway over the more traditional types, which is apparently the motive behind the whole Teal movement! Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #106 – May 12, 2022, 01:36:06 pm The Libs are goneski (Labour Landslide) if last nights "Pub Test" post the debate is any indication. I am now resigned to the fact that we will be represented by the dumbest PM in our history. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #107 – May 12, 2022, 02:05:18 pm Privately, I think this is the election no one is going to want to win. The next term looks to be the most volatile in history, and you can add an impending world war as one more reason why you would rather lose this one.Perfect election to go independant. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #108 – May 12, 2022, 02:20:28 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on May 12, 2022, 02:05:18 pmPrivately, I think this is the election no one is going to want to win. The next term looks to be the most volatile in history, and you can add an impending world war as one more reason why you would rather lose this one.Perfect election to go independant.Not sure about the World War....I suspect it will be a Cold one.But I think you're probably right about a win being a 'poison chalice'. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #109 – May 12, 2022, 03:39:45 pm More likely a European (NATO) War against Russia (if at happens at all) as the ccp are on their economic knees. Anyway, think it's unlikely. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #110 – May 12, 2022, 04:44:07 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 12, 2022, 01:36:06 pmThe Libs are goneski (Labour Landslide) if last nights "Pub Test" post the debate is any indication. I am now resigned to the fact that we will be represented by the dumbest PM in our history.Albo is seen as a nice bloke but doesnt come across as the sharpest polly on the block and Jim Chalmers isnt my idea of a bloke who is capable of or who has the knowledge needed to control Australia's finances.You add Penny" the bully" Wong and its a scary future especially if the ALP have to buddy up with the Greens to govern...Double whammy if you live in Victoria is if you cop another term of office for a corrupt Andrews Government that have fecked up the health system so badly its going backwards and thats without CoVid.Problem is the lack of alternatives especially in Victoria...Matthew the other Guy is like the invisible man...you just dont see him or know what the policy alternatives are...just zero opposition and the LP look incapable of Governing. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #111 – May 12, 2022, 04:49:16 pm Quote from: Lods – on May 12, 2022, 02:20:28 pmNot sure about the World War....I suspect it will be a Cold one.But I think you're probably right about a win being a 'poison chalice'.Couple of nuclear strikes should warm up the cold atmosphere, with Vlad indisposed and his even more nutty mate involved in running the army I'd expect an escalation of attacks from Russia with heavier weaponry aimed at the public in an effort to break the strong resistance. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #112 – May 12, 2022, 04:51:13 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 12, 2022, 04:44:07 pmAlbo is seen as a nice bloke but doesnt come across as the sharpest polly on the block Take a long hard look at his property portfolio ... that no-one mentions. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #113 – May 12, 2022, 05:15:04 pm Quote from: capcom – on May 12, 2022, 04:51:13 pmTake a long hard look at his property portfolio ... that no-one mentions.I did read about a week ago he has a property portfolio worth about 5 million which is a long way from the council house in Camperdown. He is on a decent wage of nearly 400k so Id expect him to be doing something with it.His present lady friend is in the Superannuation field and his former wife Carmel Tebutt was also a Economic grad and ex polly of some note so I think he has been around some good advice and also had some assistance in creating that portfolio.I dont dislike Albo or Chalmers I just dont feel comfortable with their lack of experience in what are very difficult times..on the other side I dont have much time for Frydenberg or ScoMo as individuals but probably think they shade their Labor counterparts for experience and knowledge but neither team qualify for my vote and as Thry suggested Independents who IMHO may be more locally focussed may be better alternatives. The Greens, Clive, Pauline just make it more of a sad situation in terms of choice..I just want to throw something at the TV with the flood of United Aus Party ads... Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #114 – May 12, 2022, 05:39:02 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 12, 2022, 05:15:04 pmI just want to throw something at the TV with the flood of United Aus Party ads...I have one very low opinion of palmer. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #115 – May 12, 2022, 05:44:19 pm Quote from: capcom – on May 12, 2022, 03:39:45 pmMore likely a European (NATO) War against Russia (if at happens at all) as the ccp are on their economic knees. Anyway, think it's unlikely.where nato goes we can't help but get involved.Our issues are more local than Russia anyway. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #116 – May 12, 2022, 07:30:43 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 12, 2022, 04:44:07 pmAlbo is seen as a nice bloke but doesnt come across as the sharpest polly on the block and Jim Chalmers isnt my idea of a bloke who is capable of or who has the knowledge needed to control Australia's finances.You add Penny" the bully" Wong and its a scary future especially if the ALP have to buddy up with the Greens to govern...Double whammy if you live in Victoria is if you cop another term of office for a corrupt Andrews Government that have fecked up the health system so badly its going backwards and thats without CoVid.Problem is the lack of alternatives especially in Victoria...Matthew the other Guy is like the invisible man...you just dont see him or know what the policy alternatives are...just zero opposition and the LP look incapable of Governing.A Labour Green alliance, oh the joy. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #117 – May 12, 2022, 07:36:10 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on May 12, 2022, 05:44:19 pmwhere nato goes we can't help but get involved.NATO countries combined? What could we possibly add Thry? UK, US, France and Germany would overwhelm Russia Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #118 – May 12, 2022, 07:41:44 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 12, 2022, 07:30:43 pmA Labour Green alliance, oh the joy.Albanese has preferenced them first almost everywhere. But no, no shared power arrangement according to him if he failed to win a majority in his own right. Quote Selected
Re: Election 2022 (Poll added) Reply #119 – May 12, 2022, 08:02:08 pm Quote from: capcom – on May 12, 2022, 07:36:10 pmNATO countries combined? What could we possibly add Thry? UK, US, France and Germany would overwhelm RussiaWe always find a way to get involved. We sent troops to Afghanistan Quote Selected