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Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #60
The thing we need most with our injury issues is a bit of stability.
We don't want players in and out of the side....and there is the dilemma

Players coming back need a few games to get back up to speed.
Guys like Cera and Honey will get a bit of grace.
A player like Weitering comes back in as soon as he's able.
Lesser lights get a few games at the lower level

I suspect there is a bit of an agenda with Dow.
Either we're giving him enough exposure to keep suitor clubs interested.
They'd be aware of his performance in VFL games.
or
He has certain performance indicators that he's just not meeting, and that's not necessarily dependent on statistics such as disposals.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #61
Paddy Dow had a statistically better game than that against Collingwood, and we had lost Weitering in that game causing us a bit of structural damage.  Didnt stop him getting dropped after match in the seniors.


To go with Cerra's stats he racked up 1 tackle.  Paddy had 5 and he got dropped.

Ill give players graces.  Im not one to call for one bloke to be dropped at the drop of a hat, but we lost badly and we have players lining up to get in and blokes under performing.  You can drop newnes too if you want, but we cant drop too many outside players without bringing in an outside player. 

Paddy played in the centre. The easiest position to get tackles
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #62
Forecast wet and very windy here on Sunday so won't be a pretty game and probably nullifies the advantages we have with Charlie and Harry up forward. Agree with other comments on here.....Ryan and Rioli are the 2 that could hurt us in those conditions. If it is wet/windy, not sure Kemp will hold his spot?

For me, Weitering and Owies in for Kemp and Honey.

That still leaves us with only six defenders and that's not sustainable in good conditions. If Kemp goes out - and on form he shouldn't - Stocker has to come in.

With the expected conditions, Wet Toast getting players and form back, and their difficult to match up on forwards, I think we'll be in trouble if we go with six defenders.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #63
That still leaves us with only six defenders and that's not sustainable in good conditions. If Kemp goes out - and on form he shouldn't - Stocker has to come in.

With the expected conditions, Wet Toast getting players and form back, and their difficult to match up on forwards, I think we'll be in trouble if we go with six defenders.
Cottrell can play as a half back if required. He's essentially playing a nullifying role most weeks anyway.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #64
Kemp out

Obviously Weitering in
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #65
Interchange from....
[32] Jack Newnes,
[5] Adam Cerra,
[25] Zac Fisher,
[19] Corey Durdin,
[36] Josh Honey,
[40] Will Hayes,
[43] Will Setterfield,
[38] Sam Durdin

Pick 4, and a sub.

For mine
Fisher, C. Durdin, Cerra, Newnes - Setterfield sub

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #66
Interchange from....
[32] Jack Newnes,
[5] Adam Cerra,
[25] Zac Fisher,
[19] Corey Durdin,
[36] Josh Honey,
[40] Will Hayes,
[43] Will Setterfield,
[38] Sam Durdin

Pick 4, and a sub.

For mine
Fisher, C. Durdin, Cerra, Newnes - Setterfield sub
Agree...I'd probably try Hayes as the sub though just to see if he is any value.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #67
Cottrell can play as a half back if required. He's essentially playing a nullifying role most weeks anyway.

Newnes did that against the Saints … poorly.  Cottrell could too, but not as well as Kemp or Stocker, and our wingers would be under strength and under pressure, as they were against the Saints.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #68
Who is the extra defender who rotates off the bench?? Please don't say Newnes!!  Should be Stocker!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #69
Newnes did that against the Saints … poorly.  Cottrell could too, but not as well as Kemp or Stocker, and our wingers would be under strength and under pressure, as they were against the Saints.

Agreed.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #70
WC have yet another home game advantage. We're permitted from training at OS.

On another note. I hope we get to wear our Indigenous kit to celebrate NAIDOC week. Love our guernsey
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #71
Paddy played in the centre. The easiest position to get tackles

He also had less time on ground and played his first match for the season.

No reason why cerra shouldn't build his fitness in the VFL. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #72
He also had less time on ground and played his first match for the season.

No reason why cerra shouldn't build his fitness in the VFL. 

Cerra is an AFL player, sadly Dow is a VFL player.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #73
He also had less time on ground and played his first match for the season.

No reason why cerra shouldn't build his fitness in the VFL. 

Don't think coaches rate Paddy Dow - I can see why they don't. You don't tackle you don't play.

 

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #74
The MC must be having a laugh!

I had this game down as a definite win but, for the first time this season, I don’t think we will win 🙁
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!