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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #30 –
Did Young have a shocker or was he just outmatched? Cameron is one of the best forwards in the comp.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #31 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Motlop had 5 tackles and 22 pressure acts which is as much as you could ask of the kid.
Was Motlop's best game by some margin, which is encouraging given the opposition and conditions.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #32 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Did Young have a shocker or was he just outmatched? Cameron is one of the best forwards in the comp.
I thought Weiters has looked out of touch since he returned, and Young has lost a bit of confidence over the last two weeks.

Maybe Weiters has also been rushed back, much like Newnes was played not fit, we've seen a few of these MC decisions over the last few weeks that have cost us. Injuries are starting to mount up! I thought we brought Cerra back early, but he really stepped up in his 2nd game back, and was OK last night. It might take Weiters a game or twothree.

Still do not understand LoB being dropped, and then to go back and be one of our better contributors in the VFL. Based on the VFL, we could have done with Setterfields size last night!
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #33 –
I'm not too fussed, it's sort of what I expected given the conditions, the short break and the travel. We still got effort, we just didn't have the polish or the ability to break away last night.

But, if you haven't got the double chance, last night was a taste of second week finals action!
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #34 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Did Young have a shocker or was he just outmatched? Cameron is one of the best forwards in the comp.
To be honest, mbb, I thought Young really struggled in the conditions last night. he's been good because he's taken a lot of strong defensive marks and stopped opposition forays forward. Last night he did none of that.
Young took five marks, but not one of them was contested. Instead, he struggled to read the ball in the air and didn't even try to take a mark. He punched, sometimes with both hands, and he didn't make many good contacts. It reduced his effectiveness remarkably.
You could see that it was playing on him, eroding his confidence. He really kept Cameron quiet for a lot of the game, but his lack of confidence when it matter meant that Cameron didn't feel he had to treat him with a lot of respect. He just went where he wanted to, and hurt.
Young should be better next week at Marvel, but things like this show he isn't the total answer in defence yet.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #35 –
Quote from: LP – on
I thought Weiters has looked out of touch since he returned, and Young has lost a bit of confidence over the last two weeks.

Maybe Weiters has also been rushed back, much like Newnes was played not fit, we've seen a few of these MC decisions over the last few weeks that have cost us. Injuries are starting to mount up! I thought we brought Cerra back early, but he really stepped up in his 2nd game back, and was OK last night. It might take Weiters a game or twothree.

Still do not understand LoB being dropped, and then to go back and be one of our better contributors in the VFL. Based on the VFL, we could have done with Setterfields size last night!
We really lacked drive from defence last night. Neither of our key defenders could take a mark, and they were fumbly on the ground as well. It really hurt us.
Weitering's form since his return has been rusty, to say the least. I like to think he'll also be better at Marvel next week. After his last injury it took him quite a while to really find his form again. I think it was just the confidence to do what he usually does. I hope he finds his form soon, because we really need him.
Actually, these two were not the only ones whose marking was down last night, Nick Newman has been very good in the air in recent weeks, but he also dropped marks he could have taken. Even Stocker dropped a couple he would normally have swallowed.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #36 –
Quote from: LP – on
Was Motlop's best game by some margin, which is encouraging given the opposition and conditions.
Indeed. Last night showed the sort of future Motlop could have if he keeps up his present workrate. he did some very nice things, but fumbled at least one sure goal. (He wasn't alone in that!" Nor did Motlop get rewarded for much of his hard work. The umpires really allowed so many Geelong players to get away with murder last night.
On the other hand, Corey Durdin started like a house on fire and faded into total oblivion after about the 20 minute marks of the first quarter. He needs a good game, or a spell, as he simply wasn't dangerous for enough of the game.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #37 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Smashed in the middle. We need Pittonet back so we can return to our strength from early in the year which was centre clearances.
This was where we lost the game. We simply couldn't get a decent break from the centre. Geelong mids were holding ours before they even got the ball, while theirs managed to get the ball out, somehow or another (not many of these were remotely like legal disposals, but I'm not going there). We barely won a centre clearance all night.
Around the ground we started poorly, but picked up. Eventually we won most of those, but it was the centre that killed us.
Kennedy was great early, but he faded. Cerra and Hewett were good players for us, but they didn't get centre clearances like they usually do. Even Walsh, hard work that he was, was fumbly and didn't show his normal high standard when disposing of the ball.
Cripps was well held, and I mean that literally.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #38 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Durdin had 0 tackles and only 10 pressure acts. Not sure what was going on there.

Motlop had 5 tackles and 22 pressure acts which is as much as you could ask of the kid.
Right at this minute, Motlop has gone passed Durdin who has struggled for weeks. Might be time for a game in the 2s perhaps? Or Does Owies make both Mots and Durds better?
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #39 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Did Young have a shocker or was he just outmatched? Cameron is one of the best forwards in the comp.
If our mids were better up the ground, the defence wouldn't have looked as bad. Their mids absolutely smashed ours. Blicavs to Cripps was a great move as he had him covered for height and endurance/speed.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #40 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Did Young have a shocker or was he just outmatched? Cameron is one of the best forwards in the comp.
Wrong opponent, Cameron doesn't play a traditional stay at home game, he had 18 possessions which was more than Cripps.
Young is a good player but if I was coaching against him I would be playing a very mobile forward on him to run him around rather than try and play a contested marking game which is what Young prefers. Didn't think it was great coaching and proved costly as Cameron was the best forward on the ground imo..

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #41 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Young took five marks, but not one of them was contested. Instead, he struggled to read the ball in the air and didn't even try to take a mark. He punched, sometimes with both hands, and he didn't make many good contacts. It reduced his effectiveness remarkably.

I think a lot of players stuggled to read the ball in the air last night.
Harry had a similar problem at the other end.

In the end Young and Weitering didn't have great games, but if we'd said before the game that Hawkins and Cameron would only get 5 between them we would have thought they'd done really well, and that would have gone a long way to us winning.
We probably just expected more than 3 from the Harry/Charlie combination.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #42 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Wrong opponent, Cameron doesn't play a traditional stay at home game, he had 18 possessions which was more than Cripps.
Young is a good player but if I was coaching against him I would be playing a very mobile forward on him to run him around rather than try and play a contested marking game which is what Young prefers. Didn't think it was great coaching and proved costly as Cameron was the best forward on the ground imo..
I felt when the game was close in the first two qtrs, Cameron was well held and ineffective. Once their mids really got going, Cameron got into the game.
What annoyed me most was the lack of time put into Hawkins especially at boundary throw ins in the F50.
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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #43 –
I thought Cameron and Hawkins contributed to other goals as well which was the difference.
Geelong are playing a different game style now, I even saw Hawkins in the back pocket, the reliance on Dangerfield, Selwood etc is now over and more of their players are playing in a non traditional way and taking on more responsibility rather than relying on a couple of stars to ignite the rest..

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #44 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Wrong opponent, Cameron doesn't play a traditional stay at home game, he had 18 possessions which was more than Cripps.
Young is a good player but if I was coaching against him I would be playing a very mobile forward on him to run him around rather than try and play a contested marking game which is what Young prefers. Didn't think it was great coaching and proved costly as Cameron was the best forward on the ground imo..
If we meet them in the finals, I'd be playing McGovern on Cameron. He is more likely to like running around, and he has to be watched. Cameron couldn't just leave him and go off on his own; McGovern would bite them the other way.
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