AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #105 – August 22, 2022, 08:16:45 am

I think we have to critically look at the list and weed out blokes who can't be relied up to turn up, play four quarters or even get on the part. Consistent, acceptable output is what we need, not blokes that deliver once in a blue moon.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #106 – August 22, 2022, 08:23:43 am

Quote from: Micky0 – on August 22, 2022, 08:13:30 am

Saad was quite obviously playing injured - he gave his all but you could see he had limited movement.

Agree, should not have played, he seem to get one slight knock and was really sore afterwards. Collingwood to their credit were actually fairly sportsmanlike through the game and could have cleaned up some of our sore players but didn't.

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Reply #107 – August 22, 2022, 08:48:43 am

Quote from: RiverRat – on August 22, 2022, 12:03:24 am

Fully agree regarding the above-mentioned players but the biggest surprise for me was the midfield contributions of Setterfield in the past two matches - I haven't been a big fan due to his questionable kicking (in hope) but I have seen enough the past 2 games to think that he will be a player -

x2. Thought the same thing.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #108 – August 22, 2022, 08:59:24 am

Quote from: RiverRat – on August 21, 2022, 11:55:56 pm

Not Fev for mine - he had a unique kicking action and I wouldn't trust him as a coach as he is too ill-disciplined.

I actually agree, emotion of the moment got to me!

On reflection we need to teach, Charles in particular... discernment. Learn when to take your time and use a drop punt. He has shown that he can launch a deadly drop punt from outside 50, so the ability is there. Again, and common with our group - above the shoulders... and inexperience.

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Reply #109 – August 22, 2022, 09:07:11 am

Quote from: Baggers – on August 22, 2022, 08:59:24 am

I actually agree, emotion of the moment got to me!

On reflection we need to teach, Charles in particular... discernment. Learn when to take your time and use a drop punt. He has shown that he can launch a deadly drop punt from outside 50, so the ability is there. Again, and common with our group - above the shoulders... and inexperience.

Agree, needed to go back take his time and own the moment. This is the next step in his development to becoming the champion we all hope he can be.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #110 – August 22, 2022, 09:20:23 am

Quote from: Lods – on August 22, 2022, 07:30:32 am

It's funny the number of people on Carlton social media who are feeling 'guttered' this morning.
Might be just coincidence but I'm getting my guttering done today as well.
Should be guttered by this afternoon

Maybe its because this game went up the spout?

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #111 – August 22, 2022, 09:29:59 am

Quote from: PaulP – on August 21, 2022, 08:48:37 pm

You certainly need some luck in those tight games - Elliott is a class act, but that last shot, on the run from the left pocket (for a right footer) could have easily missed, and he would have been roasted for burning both Ginnivan (about 10m to his right) and Mihochek, who was close to the goal square.

The behind the goals vision of that is ugly. Weitering and co were just ball watching, no leadership.

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Reply #112 – August 22, 2022, 09:36:49 am

Weitering didn't seem to 'recover' after his injury.
He did his job for the most part in later games but was a shadow of his early season form.
He seemed to be down on confidence and his attack on the ball wasn't the same.

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Reply #113 – August 22, 2022, 09:58:54 am

Quote from: Lods – on August 22, 2022, 09:36:49 am

Weitering didn't seem to 'recover' after his injury.
He did his job for the most part in later games but was a shadow of his early season form.
He seemed to be down on confidence and his attack on the ball wasn't the same.

Yes agree. It is hard to maintain the same form over the whole year. Everyone will have their ups and downs. Do remember him being much the same with his first shoulder injury in his first year.

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Reply #114 – August 22, 2022, 10:01:48 am

Quote from: madbluboy – on August 22, 2022, 09:29:59 am

The behind the goals vision of that is ugly. Weitering and co were just ball watching, no leadership.

Agree too easy, Elliott should never have had that space and you have to look at fitness if our blokes couldn't keep up with him and run out the game.

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Reply #115 – August 22, 2022, 10:08:48 am

We got smashed on slingshot goals all year. As soon as it gets out the back, we are shot to pieces.

Voss needs to find some pace from somewhere. We are so slow.......

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Reply #116 – August 22, 2022, 10:19:13 am

Not that it makes aby difference now but I just saw the 'blocking' free paid against JSOS, when Cripps took the mark 15m out. The ALF have got a real problem, that goal likely seals the game. He was pushed into the contest by his opponent, it is 100% an umpire error that has likely cost us a spot in the finals. Just a disaster.

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Reply #117 – August 22, 2022, 10:25:27 am

Quote from: blueday – on August 22, 2022, 10:19:13 am

Not that it makes aby difference now but I just saw the 'blocking' free paid against JSOS, when Cripps took the mark 15m out. The ALF have got a real problem, that goal likely seals the game. He was pushed into the contest by his opponent, it is 100% an umpire error that has likely cost us a spot in the finals. Just a disaster.

There were some craphouse calls that went against us BUT you’ve got all non Carlton supporters cheering the ‘greatest H&A game of all time’, no way there’ll be any scrutiny on the umpiring of it now.

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Reply #118 – August 22, 2022, 10:36:41 am

I think we need to focus on the fact that all our moments added together, plus all our opponents' moments added together, are what make the season. If only we beat the Hawks in R3 by more than 1 measly point, we would have enough percentage to make 8th. If only this happened, if only that didn't happen etc. The season narrative is cumulative, and unfortunately for us, the accumulation of all those moments was basically death by a thousand cuts. I still think the season is a pass.

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Reply #119 – August 22, 2022, 10:57:37 am

Quote from: Baggers – on August 22, 2022, 08:59:24 am

I actually agree, emotion of the moment got to me!

On reflection we need to teach, Charles in particular... discernment. Learn when to take your time and use a drop punt. He has shown that he can launch a deadly drop punt from outside 50, so the ability is there. Again, and common with our group - above the shoulders... and inexperience.

Taking time is a team thing, there was a 50m penalty where Pitto didnt take the full 50m, dished it off to Stocker running by I think who rushed a kick fwd that was intercepted. Take the full 50m, get yourself as deep as possible and then use the ball cleverly to spot up a fwd. Sometimes slow crafty play is better than run and gun. Composure.