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Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #90 –
Here is where that drawn game really plays havoc with the way the draw pans out, because dependant on what happens to other technically this week we are one good week away from 2nd, but only one bad week away from 10th!

Could be a tough week this week, Vossies first Carlton coaching game against Ross the Boss, Ross the Boss has inside info from SOS and Stocker. Add to that Ross the Boss will be fuming after yesterday's loss, he'll be intent on making a statement.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #91 –
Perfect storm against us per usual.  If Saad misses we're truly jeffed.  Don't have the structural personnel fit and playing well.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #92 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Perfect storm against us per usual.  If Saad misses we're truly jeffed.  Don't have the structural personnel fit and playing well.
We should be used to this perfect storm by now! ::)
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #93 –
Quote from: LP – on
Here is where that drawn game really plays havoc with the way the draw pans out, because dependant on what happens to other technically this week we are one good week away from 2nd, but only one bad week away from 10th!

Could be a tough week this week, Vossies first Carlton coaching game against Ross the Boss, Ross the Boss has inside info from SOS and Stocker. Add to that Ross the Boss will be fuming after yesterday's loss, he'll be intent on making a statement.

Personally, I'm far more concerned about how good the Aints look. A sustained 4 qtr effort/intensity... sustained and 4 qtr efforts are not our strong suits. You could easily see us playing well for our usual 2 1/2 qtrs or 3 and let them off the leash for a qtr or so to establish, say, a 4 goal lead and that ends up being the final margin. Far from optimistic about this one.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Personally, I'm far more concerned about how good the Aints look. A sustained 4 qtr effort/intensity... sustained and 4 qtr efforts are not our strong suits. You could easily see us playing well for our usual 2 1/2 qtrs or 3 and let them off the leash for a qtr or so to establish, say, a 4 goal lead and that ends up being the final margin. Far from optimistic about this one.

I think it's actually set up for us to know how good we really are.
We wont come with any expectation other than this will be a hard slog.
We need to apply pressure from the start.
Another performance like Thursday night and this will be looking like a very long and frustrating year.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #95 –
Given this is the case, Voss can give himself some insurance by choosing this week to rotate the players in the team a bit.

This is the week to:  Bring in Kemp and Dow, drop the ones in so-so form or with questions over injury, and debut Cincotta and potentially Mirkov.

Will cause selection headaches for the aints as they wont really know how to match up on us, and it gives Voss an out because our team is labouring (everyone can see it) and it will also absolve the Adelaide loss a little because people will infer that players are playing under duress and arent quite fit.

Its a win win for him, and it might be a strategy that sees us pinch a win because only a heavy loss will be bad, and the Saints havent really been obliterating teams, more just making it a slug fest.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #96 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on

... and the Saints havent really been obliterating teams, more just making it a slug fest.

...in typical Ross style...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #97 –
AFL football is a hard, injury riddled game as it is. I don't want to see our boys specifically target a player returning from injury. Jack Steele is class act and a fair player to boot.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #98 –
Caminiti looks like he will miss after whacking Murphy from Collingwood.
Saints forward line will be looking very small...

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Reply #99 –
Steele is to Cripps what Nadal is to Federer...hopefully he is lacking match fitness and runs out of gas early.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #100 –
Don’t jump too early. Saad has 10 days to come up and he was benched as a precaution with hamstring tightness when the game was lost with 15 minutes to go.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #101 –
I'm tired of hearing all the reasons why other teams will come out against us on a mission.

When do we come out snarling and show someone else how tough and committed we are?

Surely after last Thursday's showing we need to find some hunger and bring it on....?!  
Or perhaps we're not capable?
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #102 –
Upside is that surely we couldn't play as bad as that first 20 minutes again? In those first 10 games last year it was our midfield that was dominating....winning contested possessions....hitting targets and the scoreboard. That seems to have disappeared this year. Walsh will be better for that first game under his belt.

Saints will be forced to play Membrey now with Camanitti surely to cop at least one week. But Ross Lyon likes a scrap and is back to his old ways of "if we hold the opposition to 8 goals and kick 9 ourselves, we win".....expect it to be messy with Saints players dropping back to make it hard for Harry and Charlie.

We need our smaller forwards to step up this week. Hopefully McGovern gets up along with Pittonet.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #103 –
Membrey usually destroys us.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #104 –
Yep, it didn’t take Lyon long to show that he’ll always be defence-first. It doesn’t matter that rule changes favour attacking play and attacking teams like the Pies prosper, he’ll always be the lockdown guy. Thank God we didn’t chase him. I guess winning ugly might make it easier for fans to endure the grind but Lyon’s antics in the post-game press conference don’t quite make up for the lack of spectacle.

Last year we were stoppage bulls but we seem to have lost that strength because we’re concentrating more on defending the other team’s transition. As the commentators have noted on their telestrators, our mids fall back goalside at stoppages when we don’t immediately win possession but our opposition tends to win the game of British Bulldog by moving the ball laterally until they find an open runner. Surely there has to be a better way …