Carlton Supporters Club

I get fans think based on your posts you (@Kruddler) are a Pitto booster, but I realise what you are really doing is protecting SoJ. You need Pitto 1st rucking because if TDK plays and rests forward it won't be Cripps getting the chop from the F50 extra tall role, we can all see it coming, SoJ gets squeezed out, this is the way.

If we do what fans want and put a bullet in McGovern to keep SoJ via some weird and speculative reshuffle , we might was well shoot our own foot.

FFS, now some are calling for Weiters head, and SoJ just roles on unsupervised!

Personally I hope I'm wrong, I hope SoJ sticks fat at Carlton, comes good and enables us to rub his old man's face in it, but it's a wish not an expectation!

From the Heraldsun

So here is the weirdest stat in footy. Carlton ranks No. 1 in the comp for contested possession differential but only 11th for clearance differential.

The Blues are third in the comp for winning first possession from a stoppage but are 16th from converting it into a pure clearance.

So the Blues win the first possession more than nearly every other team but can’t turn it into a clearance.

Pathetic effort. Pies toyed with us and then took the foot off the gas.

https://omny.fm/shows/drive-with-tom-elliott/the-call-to-3aw-from-an-irate-carlton-fan-that-cau

https://omny.fm/shows/drive-with-tom-elliott/the-call-to-3aw-from-an-irate-carlton-fan-that-cau

Sigh. The worst type of supporter. Please get a refund, cancel your membership, and go support another club. it's only football, and your health is way more important than that.

Its not the simple, footy is everything to some people. People are passionate, people are sick of the lack of success. Its not how I'd react but I get it.

No doubt there are different perspectives. Some say he's passionate. I say he's ill informed, presumptuous and irrational, and endangering his own health. It's like I said earlier - some folks seem to be willing participants in an abusive relationship.

The funny thing is he wouldn't rate us as 'true' supporters.
He'd say we don't care enough.
That we accept mediocrity and are the worst thing that could happen to the club.
There are a whole range of emotions associated with supporting a football club.
Who is right and who is wrong is in the eyes of the beholder.
At the moment I suspect he's not Pat Malone.
We'll have a problem when there are even more Pats
And blokes like Tom Elliott will kick it along.

I agree. He probably does think those things. But I'm not convinced that type of behaviour is anything other than selfish. I don't believe it leads to anything good. I don't believe it represents any real understanding of football clubs, or football players or football in general. It's just a selfish vent. Supporters need to accept their agency and be more responsible. Those types of outbursts lead to coach sackings and more. People from the club read the temperature of the room from many sources : forums like this, direct contact from fans, talkback radio (God forbid) etc.

I don't understand your saying it's a selfish vent.  He sounds like a long-time supporter who has bought into the current message of the club that we are finally on the up and up, and based on that information he has parted with hard earned cash for membership.

And has the club delivered?  Definitely not.  The Collingwood game was more of the same litany of basic skill errors, the usual brain fades etc, delivered by a team that had no pride and for the most part seemed detached from proceedings.

Fans such as Snapper help fill the financial coffers of clubs.  If the Carlton side keeps presenting at future matches with the same apathetic attitude then the club may get a rude awakening at the end of the season when it calls on members to dip into their wallets for next year's membership.

There is no doubt in my mind that the players and coaches carry the hurt way more than armchair experts.