Re: AFL Rd 18 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Reply #61 –
It would be interesting to check out a Port supporters group to see which of our players they’re most anxious about.
I suspect that Hinkley is more concerned about Charlie, Harry, Martin, Cerra, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Saad, Docherty, Acres and our ruck combination than Voss is about Dixon, Finlayson, Allir, Butters, Rozee, et al.
From Big Footy PA v Carl game preview thread:
RE Jonas
"No McKenzie no port
Blues by 4 goals, Tom Jonas bog first Carlton"
"Who would Jonas match up on?
Curnow is laughable, he'd have 5m on Jonas in an instant.
McKay is half a foot taller than Jonas.
He's too slow to play on smalls.
No good as an interceptor as he can't mark anymore and is a dump kick player."
"Silvagni"
"Tend to agree. Jonas might be the most like for like McKenzie replacement but I’d rather Bergman/Jones play on Curnow."
"Curnow would kick 12.8 on Jonas. Too fast, too big, too athletic"
"We're replacing McKenzie's absolute left foot cannon with a Jonas' serviceable 30m sideways chip passes. That's a huge loss."
"It's alright, he'll only touch it once or twice. Probably for the best."
"Will Curnow be at the coin toss? That will about as close as Jonas will get to him if so."
"Jonas in has all the hallmarks of being able to pinpoint where a promising season disappeared before our eyes. He's a poor match-up on any Carlton players, but no matter how badly he goes, if he's in now they've decided he's a McKenzie replacement, so in for at least the time until he's back. Even that is wishful thinking, we aren't dropping him a week or two before finals."
General
"We need to bury the Blues - 40+.
Our midfield is faster and more skilful. Ferraris vs commodores.
Our forward line is more dynamic and talented.
Our defensive six have prioritised speed and talent over height and one on one ability.
We should crush these AFL rich boy darlings.
Would love an aggressive Pasini debut but I think, bergs back, Xavs to the wing and Narkle in up front makes sense.
Happy for Evans to sub or debut The Wolverine- it’s time, cracking game."
"Essentially an elimination final for the blues next week. Will be a good test for us.
Anyone know their record at Marvel?"
"Blues up and about. All of a sudden this game just got very interesting.
Expect the Blues faithful to pack out Marvel Stadium as they look to help their team break an interstate raiders 13-game winning streak….and also expect the 2015-16 umpiring treatment too."
"Yes. But Curnow and McKay as dual tall and very mobile forward targets for Carlton is quite formidable.
Aliir takes one next week. Who takes the other?"
"McKay played back into form."
"Yep - the midfield delivery to him and Curnow has been elite. Despite Freo having a huge ruck dominance with
47 hit outs (to
thus far Carlton are killing the centre clearances to advantage. "
Nullifying that midfield dominance once the ball hits the deck. That's obviously the focus for us against them next week..
"Drop ken as Carlton have no reckonized coach"
"Don’t know why we’ve struggled against this side away. Since the start of ‘07, we’ve only beaten the blues in Melbourne twice (2014 and 2018), so this assignment will be anything but easy."
"Carlton away in WA this evening, will be very tough for them to back it up on a Marvel deck we play well.
We get in to a mini tough run after this with Collingwood - Crows - Geelong"
"Posted this in today's game thread but fits here.
Against Carlton at Docklands next week - and they have no (recognised) ruck with both Marc Pittonet and De Koning out due to injury. So no need for a tap ruckman with no mobility as it will leave our mids exposed to a smaller faster centre bounce set up.
So Hayes out. (sorry Schulzy :cry:).
Give Dixon and his peg leg a well earned rest before Collingwood.
Bring in Ollie Lord (who's back from suspension) to rotate with Finlayson in the ruck
And I'm not sure what we do to replace McKenzie if his ankle is something serious but the SANFL form of a couple of players looks pretty good and surely Duursma has done enough to get a spot back in the As.
Narkle stays in. And maybe Burgoyne gets another look with Rioli out for personal reasons."
"If we can repeat the 3rd quarter against the Suns, we'll be hard to beat anyway (although playing just 1 quarter this week may be fraught with danger)."
In reply to a Bluebagger:
"Should be a good game this week, BAT. Carlton has been in good form, but these days, Port loses at Marvel about as often as I meet intelligent Crows fans."
"Carlton supporters have always been the most delusional. Felt sorry for them at times but I think they are in need of another reality check."
"Carlton supporters are very, very confident they will beat us."
"Just a few days ago, this was just like any other game to me. Now I really want to put them back in their box!
Yeah they are, I had one taunting me saying they will be 5th after this weekend. Game will be won in the centre if we starve their forwards - Game Over."
There was this classy reply to the post above
"now i hope we piss blast them in their faces"
(if anyone can explain to me what piss blast is that would be great, doesn't sound pleasant thought)
"I find them highly annoying - every time we play them the ranga Cotterill has a decent game. I don't think I've seen him play a good game against any of the other 16 teams."
"Matthew Kennedy out for Carlton avoids acl but will miss 6 weeks"
"That's a loss for us. Very ordinary footballer."