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Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #105 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Outmuscled, outrun, outplayed and outgunned by a clearly superior opponent. No disgrace in that performance IMO. They have real hardness and real skill. I'm tipping them for the flag.

Agreed !!
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #106 –
Fans underestimate the toll playing the Swans and Melbourne consecutively took on the squad, Top 4 with a week off is a huge advantage, and teams only have a chance from the bottom half of the eight if one of the top teams has some bad luck.

If the team has a problem it was the start to the season, not the finals effort.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #107 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
I thought Berry was influential and that was the problem, home and away game its fine to leave the matchup continue for Hollands to get experience but not in a do or die prelim...
Not disputing Berry's influence, just commenting on Ollies application for a first year in a big final. I have to watch it again in full. Ill also add this comment re Charlie, it looked to me like he wasn't prepared to work hard enough to get to contests or make one. I recall one passage of play where Weiters burst from the backline and busted a boiler to hit up Charlie, the kick fell short despite his best efforts. Charlie appeared to be barely ambling along to get to it. Perhaps some harder work (running harder earlier in the piece) would have resulted in the kick hitting its intended target. Effort doesn't take talent. Not sure whether the pressure or the occasion(s) got to him or not, but he has work to do in this space. I'd rather he rips finals appart that win Coleman's.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #108 –
It crapS me to tears when a bloke like McKenna - who has cut us up previously - does so again. It reeks of poor planning.
We have issues across half forward that need addressing.  When he was 'on' Martin was that man, but yesterday our half fowards just didn't get it done and Coleman and McKenna ripped us a new one. We've got a group of these blokes eg Martin Fisher Cunners Owies so I can see why we'd be chasing Eli Hollands, its part of the ground that we need to find a player for.  Pace, class and ability to take a mark.  They're always a bit up and down but a bloke like (gag) Rohan who could kick six on a good day, and stops the half backs running wild might be what we need.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #109 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
It crapS me to tears when a bloke like McKenna - who has cut us up previously - does so again. It reeks of poor planning.
We have issues across half forward that need addressing.  When he was 'on' Martin was that man, but yesterday our half fowards just didn't get it done and Coleman and McKenna ripped us a new one. We've got a group of these blokes eg Martin Fisher Cunners Owies so I can see why we'd be chasing Eli Hollands, its part of the ground that we need to find a player for.  Pace, class and ability to take a mark.  They're always a bit up and down but a bloke like (gag) Rohan who could kick six on a good day, and stops the half backs running wild might be what we need.


Yep, another 2-3 of them !!
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"
 

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #110 –
Zac Williams is going to be a definite starter if he stays fit.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #111 –
Re CC. Agree second efforts were poor. Only he would know what was going on between his ears, but he didn't rise to the finals challenge. Hopefully he has what it takes to learn from it. The talent is there, but finals are a different game and as one post said, you are playing against the best and you don't get to beat up on the less talented kids in the playground.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #112 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Zac Williams is going to be a definite starter if he stays fit.
Unknown quantity imho and I'd be making him earn his spot.
Cincotta earned his place in the team and even Boyd deserves to start ahead of him initially after performing well in the prelim.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #113 –
Managed to stay awake to half time, they hit the lead and Mr Sandman visited. Internet at the hotel was no good,  but was excited when we went from 3 goals to 5 in the first quarter in no time.  Seemed like we came out hard and Lions didn't,  but they settled towards the end of the first.  Brisbane were back in the second,  started playing their game and we didn't help ourselves but endeavour was there.

Commentators were saying how load our supporters were - well done,  Thry.

As for the second half,  no idea,  but the score suggests we didn't give up.  I was pleasantly surprised that we were less than 3 goals from the grannie.

It took half a season to get going,  but what a ride when they did.  Expectation from all will be high next season.  It will be awesome if they deliver.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #114 –
Well, at the start of the season I was hoping that we'd make the eight and perhaps even win a final.  Those hopes had all but evaporated by round 13 but we came back.  Making a preliminary final certainly exceeded my expectations.

Mid-way through the first quarter and I was daring to dream.  It wasn't sustainable; too many banged up players, too many players whose form had dropped away, and too many players who struggled on the day, not to mention the home ground advantage enjoyed by the Lions.

Most of the usual suspects stood up, as did some of the lesser lights, but we were missing a couple of quality players on the day.  They may well have been out there, but didn't quite realise it.

Despite the disappointment of the loss, it was a great effort by the players and Vossy and his assistants to get that far.  In some ways, the loss to the Lions in round 8 was a turning point in our season.  Coming back from the slump that followed was admirable but I think that loss sowed the seeds for our loss on Saturday.

Top four and home finals next season and it will be a different story.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #115 –
If nothing else, Walsh must go close to winning the Gary Ayres without playing in the GF!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #116 –
inject pace into midfield and hbf mean breakaway speed wat is needed ,said this many many times

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #117 –
Fagan chnaged the way the the big O was rucking and we did not know how to stop or take avantage of what he was doing. We also let Coleman run around loose because we had a +1 at stoppages and it was not working.

Very proud of how the club got themselves pf the canvas and ened up playing in a prelim.

Looking ofrward to next year. GO those Baggers

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #118 –
Quote from: LP – on
Fans underestimate the toll playing the Swans and Melbourne consecutively took on the squad, Top 4 with a week off is a huge advantage, and teams only have a chance from the bottom half of the eight if one of the top teams has some bad luck.



We essentially played half a dozen finals before the finals. Every week was do or die.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #119 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Unknown quantity imho and I'd be making him earn his spot.
Cincotta earned his place in the team and even Boyd deserves to start ahead of him initially after performing well in the prelim.
Ill predict Zac will struggle to get into the side in 2024. Salaries and reputations count for nothing with Vossy.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership