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Reply #165 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
I've had 12 Cruisers, Prados and Hiluxes over the years, the 08 Prado was the pick of them by far, but the Everest I'm currently driving is a far better vehicle - drives like a car, economical and still pulls a trailer and fords rivers.
Yep, those Prados, in the years when they were almost indistinguishable from the full Landcruiser, they are bullet proof.

The only dodgy thing was the half-ar5ed emissions controls, I remember a few years worth of those models being recalled because of the faulty system that dumped a load of soot at traffic lights! I was told by design it was supposed to open at highway speeds to diffuse solids, but some design fault caused it to open as you accelerated from a full stop.
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Reply #166 –
Top-selling utes in Australia for 2026 (H1)
Australia remains a ute-loving nation, but sales took a dive during the first half of 2026. In particular, the volume-selling 4x4 ute category dropped to 96,153 units (-11.1%). This impacted not only diesel models but the BYD Shark 6 PHEV, too, although the new BYD Shark 6 Performance and Cab Chassis variants now available should boost the Chinese brand’s sales during the second half.

2026 Top 5 utes in Australia (H1):
Ford Ranger – 26,314 (-7.0%)
Toyota HiLux – 22,607 (-13.9%)
Isuzu D-Max – 12,908 (-8.2%)
Mitsubishi Triton – 10,351 (+12.2%)
BYD Shark 6 – 9493 (-8.9%)

Re: The EV thread

Reply #167 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Top-selling utes in Australia for 2026 (H1)
Australia remains a ute-loving nation, but sales took a dive during the first half of 2026. In particular, the volume-selling 4x4 ute category dropped to 96,153 units (-11.1%). This impacted not only diesel models but the BYD Shark 6 PHEV, too, although the new BYD Shark 6 Performance and Cab Chassis variants now available should boost the Chinese brand’s sales during the second half.

2026 Top 5 utes in Australia (H1):
Ford Ranger – 26,314 (-7.0%)
Toyota HiLux – 22,607 (-13.9%)
Isuzu D-Max – 12,908 (-8.2%)
Mitsubishi Triton – 10,351 (+12.2%)
BYD Shark 6 – 9493 (-8.9%)
Not sure what those figures are comparing, but sales for utes seem to be up on this time last year ???

If true, and you asked me to sum up why sales are down in 1 sentence, it would be relatively simple.
People can't afford to spend that much on a new car nowadays.

Cost of living is going through the roof.
Cost of these same cars are going up as well.
People always want to upgrade, but maybe they can hold on for one more year.

I know a few friends going through this.

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Reply #168 –
I wanted to buy a Prado but an Everest suited my requirements at the time and was substantially cheaper, even though I have always had Toyotas for their bush usability.  So, yes, price was a big factor.
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Reply #169 –
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.
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Reply #170 –
Quote from: LP – on
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.

Tritons are sonmuch cheaper than the holux and rangers, thats whybthey are popular.
But they drive like a boat.

Rangers became the options because alternatively you were paying 10k more for a vehicle that had less. Thats an expensice badge the toyota were selling.

Everests are the same as the ranger, just for people who want to carry more 'inside things' (like kids) conpared to outside things (like tools)
Mate took one on a 9 week holiday up central Australia with a caravan. Did its job.

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Reply #171 –
Quote from: LP – on
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.
It comes down to what you can afford, with cost of living pressure, people aren't buying Toyotas just because they are Toyotas like the old days. I personally think they are superior bits of equipment (I am biased as I have owned Landcruisers and Prados for years) but they are not worth the difference in price nowadays. At the end of the day, they all do their job. I recently watched a video of a test some blokes did with some GVM vehicles at a place called "Beer OClock Hill". The GVM tank absolutely swallowed this hill up like no other car they have tested. The two different spec GVM Utes they tested were  the first 4 door Utes to make it up this particular hill. Believe me it's doozey. I wouldn't have a GVM if you gave it too me for free but they are beasts and I'm an unabashed Toyota snob.
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Reply #172 –
Quote from: kruddler – on

Rangers became the options because alternatively you were paying 10k more for a vehicle that had less. Thats an expensice badge the toyota were selling.
I think the Landcruisers are still the performance leader, but the price is the killer as @Gointocarlton points out, I think it's about a 30% premium. The new Landcruiser hybrid claims greater performance and load capacity than the traditional, this is typically the reverse of most hybrid models, so I'll be keen to see a genuine independant review.

You can build a car to ace any industry standard test, as Volkswagon proved! ;)
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Reply #173 –
GVM is an issue with these utes, plus the new land cruisers and Fords have smaller displacement motors. Ford have gone to a single turbo unit which doesn't move mass like the old one, and Toyota stopped bring in cruiser utes.  Something to do with emission standards.That's why a lot of sites shifted to Hiluxes and Rangers. Kal is full of them now.  Plus, people had had enough of the'cruiser surcharge on them.
Still got three cruisers in a lockup in Kal for bush work and won't be shifting them on for the foreseeable future.
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