Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #165 – May 06, 2024, 03:17:04 pm Quote from: Baggers – on May 06, 2024, 08:42:08 amAs LAJ noted, I believe very accurately, our losses this year have been of our own making. It's hard to ignore the game influence when you watch vision of Elliot getting rewarded at one end of the ground for a tummy tickle, while Owies gets nada for being dry humped at the other end while trying to mark!Having said that, we are cooking the footy at the moment, our ball use must be an "F" over the last few weeks. FFS, in the dying minutes BigH had the pill in the clear with four Baggers in and around CHF with space inside the F50 arc, and he kicked it straight to the Filth 10m away from any team-mate!On Williams, he made 3 mistakes and went at 86% DE. Acres made 10 mistakes ( Could be a season 2024 record! ) and went at 65% DE, some fans gave Acres votes while calling for William's head! Quote Selected Last Edit: May 06, 2024, 03:21:43 pm by LP 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #166 – May 06, 2024, 03:46:10 pm Acres will never be an elite ball user, but he does a power of work, breaks tackles, kicks goals etc. A great addition to the team. Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #167 – May 06, 2024, 03:49:39 pm This is the guy that beat us and got Collingwood the 4 points.https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/06/how-daicos-blend-of-ball-use-and-ball-winning-ability-has-blown-away-king/ Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #168 – May 06, 2024, 04:00:23 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 06, 2024, 03:46:10 pmAcres will never be an elite ball user, but he does a power of work, breaks tackles, kicks goals etc. A great addition to the team.Agreed, I'm not bagging Acres he does a power of grunt work, I'm highlighting the somewhat bizarre disparity in how fans assess player performance. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #169 – May 06, 2024, 04:02:08 pm Quote from: LP – on May 06, 2024, 04:00:23 pmAgreed, I'm not bagging Acres he does a power of grunt work, I'm highlighting the somewhat bizarre disparity in how fans assess player performance.Yes, fair enough. On that point we can agree. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #170 – May 06, 2024, 04:10:17 pm For all the vitriol in the fans base directed towards Williams, there were two other complete brain fades that cost us goals during the game.The first was in the critical moment letting an opponent make an extra number goal side of our defence in our D50, a player that most can't possibly catch given a step or two of head start.The second was one of our other defenders turning traffic cone earlier in the game, as he became paralysed by the Filth tsunami sweeping around him,.Both these incidents were moments of inaction that lead to goals free of umpire influence, and far far worse than Williams. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #171 – May 06, 2024, 04:14:49 pm Quote from: LP – on May 06, 2024, 04:10:17 pmFor all the vitriol in the fans base directed towards Williams, there were two other complete brain fades that cost us goals during the game.The first was in the critical moment letting an opponent make an extra number goal side of our defence in our D50, a player that most can't possibly catch given a step or two of head start.The second was one of our other defenders turning traffic cone earlier in the game, as he became paralysed by the Filth tsunami sweeping around him,.Both these incidents were moments of inaction that lead to goals free of umpire influence, and far far worse than Williams.You can add the Pendlebury goal and the goose who didnt pick him up which didnt require much effort given he moves in slow motion these days.....I would have dragged his opponent and sprayed him even if it was Cripps. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #172 – May 06, 2024, 04:16:20 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 06, 2024, 04:14:49 pmYou can add the Pendlebury goal and the goose who didnt pick him up which didnt require much effort given he moves in slow motion these days.....I would have dragged his opponent and sprayed him even if it was Cripps.It was Acres Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #173 – May 06, 2024, 04:22:31 pm Quote from: rocky – on May 06, 2024, 04:16:20 pmIt was AcresI didn't want to name names, the vision is damning enough, and there was another.Acres runs his arse into the ground, I get that sooner or later he needs a chop out and he might have needed one in those moments, but there are times you don't have a choice, you just have to keep going at it Robert Harvey style until you throw up your own ring!AFL is built on the premise that it is the last person left standing/moving, that gets the spoils!But it's not just those events that cost us, multiple times Cottrell had worked hard into open space on the fat side and we ignored him instead dropping the pill on the head of BigH or Charlie 1 out against 2 or 3! At the moment, I can't say Cottrell is more or less likely to peg a goal than Harry or Charlie, and going to Cottrell a bit more might help spread the opposition defence!Filth did it very very well, they used the player who was on, not formulaic at all, we by comparison seem very formulaic!I get we have Harry and Charlie, but it's making us predictable at the moment, weirdly it's TDK that seems to be giving us a bit of X-Factor, if only he could hang on to a few more of the marks he gets his hands to! Quote Selected Last Edit: May 06, 2024, 04:26:55 pm by LP
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #174 – May 06, 2024, 04:34:10 pm Quote from: rocky – on May 06, 2024, 04:16:20 pmIt was AcresLooked like he had Acres of space to work in.. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #175 – May 06, 2024, 04:35:47 pm Quote from: LP – on May 06, 2024, 04:22:31 pmI didn't want to name names, the vision is damning enough, and there was another.Acres runs his arse into the ground, I get that sooner or later he needs a chop out and he might have needed one in those moments, but there are times you don't have a choice, you just have to keep going at it Robert Harvey style until you throw up your own ring!AFL is built on the premise that it is the last person left standing/moving, that gets the spoils!But it's not just those events that cost us, multiple times Cottrell had worked hard into open space on the fat side and we ignored him instead dropping the pill on the head of BigH or Charlie 1 out against 2 or 3! At the moment, I can't say Cottrell is more or less likely to peg a goal than Harry or Charlie, and going to Cottrell a bit more might help spread the opposition defence!Filth did it very very well, they used the player who was on, not formulaic at all, we by comparison seem very formulaic!I get we have Harry and Charlie, but it's making us predictable at the moment, weirdly it's TDK that seems to be giving us a bit of X-Factor, if only he could hang on to a few more of the marks he gets his hands to!Martin and SOS being missed as alternatives allowing Charlie in particular to be double teamed.. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #176 – May 06, 2024, 04:39:39 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 06, 2024, 04:35:47 pmMartin and SOS being missed as alternatives allowing Charlie in particular to be double teamed..True, but we still often have blokes open and fail to use them, but BigH better not complain about it after the dying minutes of last Friday, or maybe he was teaching them a lesson, "Don't do this!" Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #177 – May 06, 2024, 05:05:50 pm Quote from: LP – on May 06, 2024, 03:13:18 pmYes, it a nightmare to come up against them after they've torched the Handbaggers and we are on a dud roll of epic proportions!We softened them up for them. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #178 – May 06, 2024, 05:16:22 pm Quote from: rocky – on May 06, 2024, 04:16:20 pmIt was AcresI'll happily argue the point and say Cunningham was closer to Pendles than anyone. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #179 – May 06, 2024, 05:21:29 pm The good thing is these events are all easy fixes that have cost us games, as long as there is the will to fix them, and the fixes do not require some 3rd party to see it our way! Quote Selected