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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #15 –
7 day break will be welcomed. Players and supporters alike.

Great to hold on. But....
Looked like a real mixed bag of perfect, solid, average, and poor passages of play. Consistency essential. Cohesion necessary. We're still chasing the former and the latter is elusive, thanks to injuries/ changes.
That said. We are finding new avenues to goal, and players are developing versatility (3peat Hawks weapon)

Cerra may miss several weeks. Again.
Martin and McG slotted right in. May that continue 🤞

I found the inconsistent umpiring frustrating. I have no idea how htb is assessed.

Batman and Robin are a force. Our centre bounce work was a pleasure to watch. Despite contesting the league's best ruckman. Hats off to Pitto, TDK, and the mids.

Elijah continues to improve weekly. Ollie on the other hand seems a yard off and light frame is under attack constantly. I worry he's going to snap. His lack of awareness of the tackler cost us 3 or so times. His effort and gut running is unquestionable. What's the plan for Ollie's development?

Our big boys were great again, and Owies played his role. I didn't see enough of Durds to comment but maybe that's telling.

A win is a win. A win from -20 i50's is even better. We'll learn lots from that game.

Go Blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #16 –
For mine small Durds put himself on the line when required.
Got caught by a fingernail a couple of times but I thought he was up and about.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #17 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
For mine small Durds put himself on the line when required.
Got caught by a fingernail a couple of times but I thought he was up and about.

yep
If he was just a fraction quicker he'd be quite valuable...but when Motlop is ready for a return he probably goes out as Owies is good for a couple of goals most games.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #18 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on

Cerra may miss several weeks. Again.

Ollie on the other hand seems a yard off and light frame is under attack constantly. I worry he's going to snap. His lack of awareness of the tackler cost us 3 or so times. His effort and gut running is unquestionable. What's the plan for Ollie's development?


We seemed to lose a lot of drive when Cerra went off.

Probably Ollie's best game for the season - despite the lack of awareness that saw him caught with the ball several times - the pressure on the ball carrier seemed off the scale in this match but he seems to be showing some Paddy Dow traits; i.e. frequently caught if he tried to run with the ball because he thought he was faster than he actually was - should be correctable with the right coaching

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #19 –
The Pitto / TDK tandem prevented Gawn from dominating although the new centre bounce rules for ruckmen is definitely helping Pitto.

Good to see the players not kicking to May and Lever early in the game and using Owies and others when Lever zoned off.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #20 –
I didn’t see this one coming. I thought after the finals last year that Melbourne would win with sheer will and beat us by a few goals. Being at work I kept checking the scores. Keeping Melbourne to no score and 5 goals up in the first quarter made me so happy. Still up at half time by the same time made me even more excited. I didn’t have a chance to check the score until the game was finished. To win by a single point must have been nail biting to watch. Take the 4 points and bank them. Next match against Sydney could be an even more difficult contest. Even though we did beat them the last time we played which was in the finals. Much will depend on who is available. Not happy to hear Cerra is injured again. I hope injuries don’t give us problems though the next few weeks. One point. One point. That will hurt the Melbourne football club and their supporters.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #21 –
[1] We really missed Cerra when he went off, he had 21 possessions in just over 2 quarters and really foiled many of their attempted centre breaks.
We need to get him right and in form for the finals. After the season maybe we should see some sort of hamstring specialist, as he's getting too many of these.

[2] Alex Cincotta! He was brilliant tonight, slaughtering Pickett again and doing some marvellous defensive things.

[3] Our defence was so much better this week than last week, even with a few blemishes in the last quarter. McGovern had a difference because he attacked the ball. Kemp did well until he had a brain fade and didn't punch. Weitering was probably BOG, he was that dominant.
Cripps and Walsh were very good, but they never dominated like Weitering did.

[4] Free Kicks: My God, we were crucified. I don't want to go through all of them, but there were so many after half time! Without them, Melbourne wouldn't have got close.
But that big tackle on Petracca near siren time: absolute Gold!

[5] Ollie Hollands played his best game for the year (by a huge margin), but he needs to learn to be more aware of players moving in on him. Three HTBs is not good enough.
His efforts in the first half, on the other hand, were excellent.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #22 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
[4] Free Kicks: My God, we were crucified. I don't want to go through all of them, but there were so many after half time! Without them, Melbourne wouldn't have got close.
But that big tackle on Petracca near siren time: absolute Gold!
It was about 10 minutes into the last quarter and I checked the free kick count.
For the second half up to that point it was 9-1 in their favour. I th I bk we then got about 4 in a row pretty quickly, plus that dodgy dangerous tackle one on Kemp that saved us a goal.

Overall I didn't think the umps were that bad, but there was definitely a bad patch which coincided with them coming back.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #23 –
Not so different from the EF last year where we just held on.

It's a tough life being a Carlton supporter at the moment. Nothing is ever easy.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #24 –
Cardiac Carlton was back tonight. The first half was as good as I have seen by us vs quality opposition.
The 3rd and 4th were very ordinary. Couldn't but a free but couldn't seem to hold a mark, thread the ball through their wall defence or buy a goal.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #25 –
Good win and still many problems - no idea why Kemp was dropped last week.
Pitto had a better rounded game - but comedy central when we needed run in the last and Pitto handballed to TDK expecting him to clear it which he did - but at that moment we needed a runner not a ruckman.
If I see Cincotta dropped for ZW there is going to be a riot.
Ollie while not perfect was productive and didn't mind his game - just wondering how many games we are going to squeeze out of Martin this year

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #26 –
Voss seemed quite upbeat at the press conference and on reflection you can kind of see why.
There's a lot of good to highlight this week as well as there is bad in a ten minute lapse at the end.
We went too defensive and our own scoring dried up, but... for most of the night we've broke even or even beaten most of their dangerous players and prime movers...except one.

Had Petracca not got off the leash it wouldn't have been close...possibly over by half-time.
He not only had influence in his own scoring but brought other players into the game and lifted the side.
We need to find an answer when we next play them.
Kennedy went well at the start but once Petracca moved forward he switched to marking Viney.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #27 –
Fantastic effort, but in the end we were saved by the bell. Boys were gassed, and Melbourne lived in our D50 in the last 10 minutes or so. Another few minutes and I'm sure they would've rolled us.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #28 –
It's funny.
It's a bit like sex. :D  :D  :D (If I remember correctly how that sometimes goes.)  :o

"Satisfaction" or "Dissapointment" in a performance is very much based on expectation and is time dependent.

Before the game if we were told we'd win against an in-form top side like Melbourne, even though we'd only win by a point, we'd have been elated.

At quarter time if we'd been told we'd win by a point we'd still be happy but we'd wonder where it we would go pear shape.

At the end of the game, probably the most accurate way to describe the feeling is 'relief'.

When it's all boiled down..."A win is a win" ;) ...and one you knock back is one you don't get. ;D

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #29 –
Backs against the wall, line in the sand, facing 3 defeats in a row (to very good opposition).

We found a way to win. That's to be appreciated, respected and applauded. The Go Dees were always going to come back hard after qtr time, premium sides do that.

We owned the game for about 35 minutes, they owned the game for about 35 minutes... the rest was an even arm wrestle.

The effort from Petracca was a once in a season brilliance from one person.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17