AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

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Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #30 – May 25, 2024, 07:02:03 pm

That snap for his fourth was a bit hungry, could have laid it off by hand. Doesn't look a natural forward, but I'll take any goal we can get

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #31 – May 25, 2024, 07:22:06 pm

I think the scoreline creates an illusion of proximity. It was a pretty dominant performance by the lads. All the key statistical indicators were very much in our favour. We led the entire match. Well done to all concerned.

A sterner test awaits in a few days time.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #32 – May 25, 2024, 07:35:39 pm

I was sitting in a dentist chair in Thailand until 1/2 time, good solid win by the boys.
The backline were rock solid for most of the last.
When Charlie wants the ball he is unstoppable.
Was Owies subbed for injury or just a rest ?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #33 – May 25, 2024, 07:39:13 pm

Voss a bit unsure with some of the umpiring decisions... so is going to seek clarification.

Kind of suggested that while he's happy with the Pitto/TDK combination and that they are developing well, TDK's efforts "have given us a lot to think about" which may suggest...."they have a lot to think about" going forward.
I don't think anything is set in stone.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #34 – May 25, 2024, 07:39:20 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 25, 2024, 06:00:33 pm

Again, are you taking the p!55 or what? Tom got smashed by Witts today, if ever you needed two rucks with one parked in the fwd line it was today. I dont know why they didn't park TDK in the goal square for his rest instead of the bench (like the resting ruckman did in the good old days). Sometimes old is new.

No, Tom didn’t get smashed in the ruck. Witts got more hitouts but few ended up as GC clearances. Most of Tom’s hitouts resulted in a clearance to us, and Tom’s second and third efforts at stoppages played a big part in that.

Tom had twice as many effective disposals than Witts and took important marks around the ground. Witts was a virtually a non-event around the ground, apart from the goal he was gifted.

From what I could see, Tom went to the bench for running repairs and because he had no gas in his tank.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #35 – May 25, 2024, 08:19:38 pm

Umpiring - I don't want to go there, but the numbers don't lie: we had 3 frees in three quarters of the game. That is just ridiculous.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #36 – May 25, 2024, 09:19:25 pm

Quote from: crashlander on May 25, 2024, 08:19:38 pm

Umpiring - I don't want to go there, but the numbers don't lie: we had 3 frees in three quarters of the game. That is just ridiculous.

I don’t want to say much either. But.
Watched the game without reference to stats. It seemed we totally dominated possession and won the contest convincingly. Yet, had 2 - 12 frees just short of 3q time. With about 10 mins remaining, we seemed to get a few frees. As if... by instruction. Bizarre to watch in that sense 🙄

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #37 – May 25, 2024, 09:26:57 pm

Quote from: Professer E on May 25, 2024, 06:51:24 pm

Three weeks for the umpire who made inappropriate contact with Cripps, reduced to $3000 fine as a first offence

And two weeks to the umpire who gave 50m penalty to gift Witts a goal. Umpiring was ridiculous today - up until 3/4 time, we had received 3 frees...... Must have been at least 4 or 5 times where GCS players just lost the ball while being tackled - and it took until the last minute to get a free kick.....

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #38 – May 25, 2024, 09:42:54 pm

Hats off to Saad, Cow, and Fogarty on return.

Our mids were all fantastic. Crippa, Walsh, Acres, George, MK. Both Hollands had a great game.

Our defence picked up where they left off, despite no continuity. I think it allowed for a bit of coaching creativity. Kemp building nicely

Loved ZW down forward. Task: do what H and Charlie say. Top performance. Harry's movement up the ground creates opportunities that will trouble opponents

Overall, our kicking cost us early despite being dominant. Once we straightened that up, we were convincing.

The most pleasing parts
- successful return from injury/omission
- tough hunter attitude across all lines
- team flexibility

Go Blues

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #39 – May 25, 2024, 09:46:16 pm

The three amigos mark two, Williams, Martin and Motlop, you never know.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #40 – May 25, 2024, 10:39:01 pm

I felt TDK as our solo ruck worked OK against Witts solo, whether it's TDK or Pitto solo against Witts making a difference I don't now, how long is a piece of string.

I also don't know what happens if we have both against a solo Witts, but I suspect when Pitto is in good form alongside TDK they make a very powerful combo, it's the same as what happened to Gawn. I doubt we'll overlook that opportunity when it presents.

I thought TDK / Witts broke about even today, with TDK having the general play and Witts having the stoppages, but Witts win was deconstructed by Cripps, Walsh and Hewett so that's a good outcome for us. However, with Cripps and Walsh playing like that I can't see things getting worse for us if we are stoppage dominant in the ruck.

Williams had significant game influence today, fans seem reluctant to give him credit where credit is due. For me his F50 success highlights a fundamental contributing cause of our failings over the last few weeks. How can it be a rookie SF like Williams gets in all the right spaces, while relatively more seasoned SFs like Fantasia, Owies and Durdin cannot?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #41 – May 25, 2024, 11:01:50 pm

Gold Coast were an easy kill imho and I wouldnt be reading too much into the result or player performance good or bad.....Williams had a decent game which is good but he needs to build trust with a string of good games before we pin a medal on him.
Conversely I wouldnt be throwing Owies and Fantasia under the bus either for having mediocre games and would want to see how they all go vs better quality teams starting with Port next game.
Obviously Witts had a picnic in the hitouts like he usually does but I thought TDK played a very complete game and was more effective around the ground and for all Witts hitouts our midfield led by Cripps and Walsh won the day easily ...

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #42 – May 26, 2024, 07:27:58 am

Some free kick numbers.
At 3/4 time it was 4-14 (I screenshotted to a friend)
It was then 5-15, 6-16 and then we got the last 5 jn a row to 'even it up' to 11-16....and some of them were definitely not there.

I've never heard the crowd chant "bull-$h!t" so many times in a game. At least 3 times it was loud and clear and directed at the umps. There was also the 'umpire is a wanker' chant that was brought out of retirement too.
When you have 40k at the game and a coach talking about the umps you know something needs to be looked at.

Thankfully, we managed to come out of it with a win anyway.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #43 – May 26, 2024, 08:36:11 am

Quote from: kruddler on May 26, 2024, 07:27:58 am

Some free kick numbers.
At 3/4 time it was 4-14 (I screenshotted to a friend)
It was then 5-15, 6-16 and then we got the last 5 jn a row to 'even it up' to 11-16....and some of them were definitely not there.

I've never heard the crowd chant "bull-$h!t" so many times in a game. At least 3 times it was loud and clear and directed at the umps. There was also the 'umpire is a wanker' chant that was brought out of retirement too.
When you have 40k at the game and a coach talking about the umps you know something needs to be looked at.

Thankfully, we managed to come out of it with a win anyway.

Yep
Voss in his press conference was pretty clear.
Umpire decisions are something that he doesn't normally dwell on...at least not publicly.
For him to mention it, meant he found some of the decisions a bit baffling.
He trod a fine line, stating that it's something we need 'clarification' on because the umpires are obviously interpeting things a little different to us and the way we're instructing players.

In other words....he thought they were "bullsh**t " decisions too.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #44 – May 26, 2024, 09:03:21 am

Quote from: DJC on May 25, 2024, 07:39:20 pm

No, Tom didn’t get smashed in the ruck. Witts got more hitouts but few ended up as GC clearances. Most of Tom’s hitouts resulted in a clearance to us, and Tom’s second and third efforts at stoppages played a big part in that.

Tom had twice as many effective disposals than Witts and took important marks around the ground. Witts was a virtually a non-event around the ground, apart from the goal he was gifted.

From what I could see, Tom went to the bench for running repairs and because he had no gas in his tank.

Exactamundo. TDK looked like a man hungry for the contest; hungry to prove something - and he did.

But what a conundrum. Pitto is also a ripper. We love him. He is different to TDK and his point of difference is really effective in its own way. Perhaps a horses for courses situation? There might be times for both, times for Pitto and rest TDK, then vice versa.