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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #90 –
For this round the Pitto scenario is just about the only decision that needs to be made, even Fantasia probably did enough last game to be safe.
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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #91 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
I think that this situation is one that MUST be guarded against - especially in an elimination, preliminary or grand final.  Therefore, it seems crazy to not formulate (and perfect) ongoing plan/s to play two ruckmen - except when injury intervenes or the opposition represents no serious competitive threat in that area.

Given Pitto's comparative lack of positional options, the logical route would seem to have him take the bulk of the ruckwork early in the game with the option of replacing him with the substitute later in the game or when the need arises. 

To maximise TDK's potential impact when Pitto is rucking, we need to experiment with other ways to utilise TDK, e.g. as a tall defender (even Casboult developed into a better than average defender at one stage) or perhaps as a 'Richo-style' wingman.

Your post brought back memories of Bret Thornton trying to ruck against Aaron Sandilands.  I don't think I have ever seen a player so obviously want to be somewhere else.

Geelong makes good use of Blicavs in a variety of positions when he's not required in the ruck but he is more agile and athletic than De Koning.  The 6-6-6 rule makes it impossible to have an "extra" in any zone without them scurrying back to their assigned position for every centre bounce.  While De Koning could be a temporary extra in defence, giving him a set position in defence for even part of the game would weaken what I think has evolved into a pretty good defensive unit.  De Koning has shown that he can be effective as a forward and I think that's where he would be of most benefit when not rucking.

It would be good if he could work with Sammy Hamill and our defensive group, just in case.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #92 –
Quote from: LP – on
For this round the Pitto scenario is just about the only decision that needs to be made, even Fantasia probably did enough last game to be safe.

More to the point, apart from Carroll who is already in the 23, no-one put their hand up in the VFL  :(
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #93 –
Quote from: LP – on
For this round the Pitto scenario is just about the only decision that needs to be made, even Fantasia probably did enough last game to be safe.
Not sure about that LP. To my eyes, Fantasia was fumbly when he went for the ball with some heat on him. He is not quick anymore and can't kick over a jam tin.
I'd rather any other young developing  player.
 

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #94 –
Any know of any tickets going? Looking for two...
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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #95 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Not sure about that LP. To my eyes, Fantasia was fumbly when he went for the ball with some heat on him. He is not quick anymore and can't kick over a jam tin.
I'd rather any other young developing  player.
Dont disagree but the young developing players dont deserve a game as yet and as we witnessed vs the Northern Bullants are struggling to match it with kids from the burbs from the bottom team.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #96 –
Fantasia is out following an injury in the Port game

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1572345?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0vfeG5Fj-4JxT4QM4up2_ujINIufkpKmHiE6ngtP0MW2cIKka-4GTMCis_aem_ARFv-1Zy8l-zHPXa07_Mh1eweEA0-tlSA6OAKnui3EbmcPFgyPJ0hyXYEwU-2DdQE_wmSjJ8eFNMg27m5KaEb9RQ

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #97 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Fantasia is out following an injury in the Port game
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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1572345?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0vfeG5Fj-4JxT4QM4up2_ujINIufkpKmHiE6ngtP0MW2cIKka-4GTMCis_aem_ARFv-1Zy8l-zHPXa07_Mh1eweEA0-tlSA6OAKnui3EbmcPFgyPJ0hyXYEwU-2DdQE_wmSjJ8eFNMg27m5KaEb9RQ

Yep, and Corey Durdin, Jesse Motlop, Caleb Marchbank and Jaxon Binns in.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #98 –
Good inclusions

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #99 –
Just the one ruckman. :D

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #100 –
For Essendon, Redman is out, and Goldstein, Shiel, Setterfield, Roberts in.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #101 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Fantasia is out following an injury in the Port game

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1572345?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0vfeG5Fj-4JxT4QM4up2_ujINIufkpKmHiE6ngtP0MW2cIKka-4GTMCis_aem_ARFv-1Zy8l-zHPXa07_Mh1eweEA0-tlSA6OAKnui3EbmcPFgyPJ0hyXYEwU-2DdQE_wmSjJ8eFNMg27m5KaEb9RQ



It did say sub injured live on the AFL app last week but I thought it was a mistake.
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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #102 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Just the one ruckman. :D

Is Pittonet still injured, or was he declared fit and omitted ? The former seems more likely ?

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #103 –
Quote from: tex – on
Good inclusions

Not if you're going on their form in the VFL.  They were all poor to average and don't deserve a senior game if the way they played in the VFL is important.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #104 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Is Pittonet still injured, or was he declared fit and omitted ? The former seems more likely ?

He was a test but could have passed and been overlooked.

I suspect that he would have been named on the bench if fit.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!