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Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #90
Apparently Martin has head up to qld to have the same calf treatment that saw him in good nick come finals time.

I like Martin, but this smacks of getting a bit desperate which might mean his body has simply broken down again. 

For mine, I dont care about the names, it's all about the team performance and for the first time I'm really comfortable with where the coaches can take us.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #91
Apparently Martin has head up to qld to have the same calf treatment that saw him in good nick come finals time.

I like Martin, but this smacks of getting a bit desperate which might mean his body has simply broken down again. 

For mine, I dont care about the names, it's all about the team performance and for the first time I'm really comfortable with where the coaches can take us.
Believe he went and is now back.  If he can repeat the timing and quality of his run last year we could be hailing it as a stroke of genius.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #92
You must have missed Charlie’s mark deep in defence 🙄

Charlie and Harry have different roles.  Apart from his ruck role, Harry plays further up the ground.  Charlie’s role means that he rarely goes past the centre, unless he’s  needed in defence.

If Charlie is “coasting”, let’s have more of it I say!

I'd be curious to see the data on Charlie. To suggest he's coasting seems pretty rich. You can check out his awards and achievements on wikipedia. You don't get to that level if you're half arsed and in second gear. He's a jet, and we're lucky to have him. 17 other clubs would crawl over broken glass and offer him a king's ransom if they could.


Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #93
Watching the replay (on mute)
The teamwork and cohesion is next level. As such, nobody needs to be a hero. As repetitive as Vossy's been, they just need to play their role using our brand.

A perfect passage in q3
McG tackles Cameron. Ollie smothers the SDK kick and delivers i50. Charlie gets a free in the marking contest and has a shot. As was the trend in q3, he kicked a point. The pressure was unrelenting 🙌
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #94
Geez H gets a couple of very untidy hits in the head in the marking contest 🤕
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #95
I'd be curious to see the data on Charlie. To suggest he's coasting seems pretty rich. You can check out his awards and achievements on wikipedia. You don't get to that level if you're half arsed and in second gear. He's a jet, and we're lucky to have him. 17 other clubs would crawl over cut glass and offer him a king's ransom if they could.

Absolutely!

He has arguably one of the hardest jobs in footy and he’s maintained the same output since his return from what many thought were career ending injuries and despite increased opposition attention.

Enjoy his ability, athleticism, opportunism and passion and ignore the bullsh1t about him cruising, not chasing, not tackling and/or being selfish. 

He’s in the leadership group for good reason, and it’s not about memberships.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #96
Absolutely!

He has arguably one of the hardest jobs in footy and he’s maintained the same output since his return from what many thought were career ending injuries and despite increased opposition attention.

Enjoy his ability, athleticism, opportunism and passion and ignore the bullsh1t about him cruising, not chasing, not tackling and/or being selfish. 

He’s in the leadership group for good reason, and it’s not about memberships.
He certainly plays the game as a fwd differently to almost everyone else. I have said that he is lazy but I don't think that's true, he is just extremely smart and opportunistic. The instant he realises he is no chance to mark it for example, he is thinking of the next contest and how he can impact it. He is as good off the ground as he is in the air, his ground level work was on show the other night. He is indeed a very special footballer.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #97
He certainly plays the game as a fwd differently to almost everyone else. I have said that he is lazy but I don't think that's true, he is just extremely smart and opportunistic. The instant he realises he is no chance to mark it for example, he is thinking of the next contest and how he can impact it. He is as good off the ground as he is in the air, his ground level work was on show the other night. He is indeed a very special footballer.

That sums him up perfectly G2C.

The goal that he kicked when he gathered a loose ball in traffic on the 50m arc was outstanding … but more or less routine for Charlie.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #98
That sums him up perfectly G2C.

The goal that he kicked when he gathered a loose ball in traffic on the 50m arc was outstanding … but more or less routine for Charlie.
The other one, whilst it wasn't a goal, was his one handed gather off the ground running away from goal (we were kicking to the punt road end) with blokes hanging off him. Sublime skills.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #99
Charlie Curnow
"we all know he has no second efforets and refuses to chase. This is not good enough IMO"

I would think that crumbing goals from a guy 6'4" would indicate a fairly strong second effort mentality.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #100
How exactly does one slam their own head into the turf?

If that was the case, Geelong would be employing a biomechanics expert to get Dangerfield off his suspension.

Watch it again, Walsh’s arms are pinned and he has no control as centripetal force propels his head in an accelerating arc into the turf.

As for the Williams-Cowan scenario, Cowan’s form in the Magoos would have played a part.  However, his opportunity arose because Williams put his hand up to play as a defensive forward and his logical replacement in defence, Cincotta, was given the tagging role.  It’s actually a win-win-win.

Walsh's shoulder/body hits Dangers leg accentuating his head hitting the ground. I think he might get off. Pay the free and move on.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #101
When you pin both arms and they hit their head you have no way out.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #102
Cerra - walk up start. Agreed.
Martin - banished forever. Has X factor but too injury prone. So I think that instead of bringing him in straight away, play him in the VFL for a couple of weeks and then bring him back into the team via the sub.
Motlop - can he force Owies or Durdin out ??. Durdin to go out. Owies bleeds blue blood like SOS. His is consistent and hits the scoreboard consistently. Number 3 behind Charlie and Harry for goals.
Carroll - what position should he play ?? Needs more time maybe? Cannot break into the team on a consistent basis.
Marchbank - banished forever. Injury prone as well, but maybe highly regarded by the MC as he has come straight into the team at times.
Pittonett - only in an emergency. I am torn about this one. Horses for courses I suppose. TDK will need a rest at some stage before finals. He is still a young man  in rucking terms and we will need him at his best to ensure we go deep into the finals and play in the last Saturday in September.
Cuningham - traded out at season's end. Agreed. Talented but too inconsistent as per Martin.
Cottrell - there is a place for him. Agreed.
Young - only in an emergency. I had high hopes for him, but after seeing him yesterday in the VFL, I shake my head and think where is this guy going with his football.

 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #104
That sums him up perfectly G2C.

The goal that he kicked when he gathered a loose ball in traffic on the 50m arc was outstanding … but more or less routine for Charlie.

There wasnt enough made of that.  They should have shown that replay from 5 different angles.   It looked like he bounced it up to himself, while under pressure from 2 blokes,  then jetted away and threw it on the left, from 45 out......  should be up there for goal of the year