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Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #15 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Bigheads strike again !!

Pittonet - utter dud, get rid of him
Marchbank - never liked him and a huge liability, boot him out
Boyd - disposal was appalling and got found out tonite for being way too loose 
Williams - before getting injured, shirked it
Curnow - massively over-rated & unreliable
Cottrell - exposed at senior level

We have too many lemons and not enough 'tough as nails' types who dig in hard when it gets tough.

Dogs wanted that win from the first bounce & played like their season depended on it, once again our guys just went though the motions in the belief it was going to magically happen.

And as for some of the undisciplined free kicks we gave away .............. spare me !!

Herés a novel thought, how about some of our defenders try to punch & spoil ?? Two or three times our idiots tried to outmark them instead of opting for the smarter play, we are just too dumb at times.

When things are going our way we look great but when the opposition apply a lot of pressure we wilt. It happened last week and it happened again tonight, the opposition clubs have now worked us out.

Why does he always come with both barrells when we get beaten but never praises us after a good win??😕

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #16 –
Delivery i50 is also off. Missed ZW and Walshy seems to be getting caught more often. I'm hopeful that we can arrest this low patch and get back to what we're capable of. It's been frustrating watching the oppo find ways to nullify us. Meanwhile, we appear to have no answers.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #17 –
Quote from: LP – on
I thought Ollie was OK, Marchbank looked off the pace, we missed McGovern.

Our record when McGovern or Saad are out it's horrendous, winning only 25% in their absence.

Ollie is too one dimensional at present. Seldom hurts the opposition with his disposals and fumbles/panics in close.

Our backline wasn't helped by poor midfield pressure and ordinary skills. Likewise forward line.

Two rucks just seem to confuse the issue.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #18 –
Interesting, two very similar losses with quite different selection, it's interesting we are having a very similar slump to the Handbaggers a few weeks back.

Injuries, selection and mindset is costing us games, we just can't get it quite right at the moment, primarily our midfield isn't able to be competitive for four quarters at the moment.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #19 –
Actually, the Pies, lost round 20, 21 and 23 last year and went on to win the flag. Won Round 22 by just 8pts.

We could be going through a heavy training patch. Time will tell. Sometimes you just don't know what goes on from the outside.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #20 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
O Hollands and Marchbank shouldn't escape scrutiny.
Agree....Ollie is a kid and has an excuse and he is still learning the game and will have to be carried in some games but Marchbank is a liability. Cottrell has come back in very cold and may need a run in the twos to warm him up.
Fogarty wasnt great today either, Motlop should come in and Martin might find himself a surprise selection if he can prove his fitness as we need some spark and cleverness to get some easy goals and give Charlie in particular some more assistance.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #21 –
Two rucks this year won 2 from 7. Could be coincidence but those are the figures.

We not a quick side so we need ever smaller type we can get.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #22 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Two rucks just seem to confuse the issue.
The ruck stuff is really just a correlation fans want to blame, it's a simple association to make, our Mids got better service this week, and we've still lost the midfield. We've only broke even in centre clearances yet Pitto and TDK gave 4 or 5 alone, English had none!

The spotlight should be on a few big names who are only playing sporadically at the moment, and the wasteful footy use.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #23 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Dogs wanted that win from the first bounce & played like their season depended on it, once again our guys just went though the motions in the belief it was going to magically happen.

When things are going our way we look great but when the opposition apply a lot of pressure we wilt. It happened last week and it happened again tonight, the opposition clubs have now worked us out.

I don't think we went through the motions.

The effort was there but we were bereft of ideas/options when confronted by sustained, quick heat for the 2nd week in a row. Plus a few passengers. Fingers crossed that Motlop, Cunners, Carroll, Martin (if he plays)... have good games. And Hewett returns next week.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #24 –
Quote from: LP – on
The ruck stuff is really just a correlation fans want to blame, it's a simple association to make, our Mids got better service this week, and we've still lost the midfield. We've only broke even in centre clearances yet Pitto and TDK gave 4 or 5 alone, English had none!

The spotlight should be on a few big names who are only playing sporadically at the moment, and the wasteful footy use.
It has never been a great success for us for years having 2 rucks.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #25 –
Quote from: laj – on
Two rucks this year won 2 from 7. Could be coincidence but those are the figures.
Rnd 5; Lost Saad early, cost us dearly.
Rnd 7; Kicked 15-15 to lose to Handbaggers 18-10.
Rnd 8; Leading late, Walsh let Daicos run through a stoppage unchecked to score the winner.
Rnd 10; Smashed by Sydney with Grundy among the best.
Rnd 18; Lost to Bulldogs, English probably BoG.

The idea we could go with one ruck and compete against a rampant English with Darcy as a backup is somewhat bizarre, so fans think less ruck capacity is a win? Pitto held his own at stoppages but didn't take a single mark which is costly, but he and TDK got 4 of our 13 centre clearances, Bulldogs had 13 centre clearances also, but English got none. If we blame the rucks we are masking the problem.

PS: Just noticed the stats are changing, a few minutes ago we had 13-13 centre clearances a piece, with TDK and Pitto 2 each, now it's all changed and we had 13 to 12, with other players getting credits now. Has anyone noticed this happen before?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #26 –
Hewett in for Pittonet. We’ve missed Hewett a huge amount I have no idea why he’s been dropped
Motlop for Williams if injured
Cunners for Cottrell
Govern for Marchbank if possible.

Sub remains Kennedy


Give Cotters a few weeks in the twos. Same with Martin.

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All is not lost. Luckily we have an OK run home but cannot afford to drop another unexpectedly

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #27 –
The good old mid- season slump is back.
It's been ages. ::)
Today was a bit different to last week and probably a little more concerning. Last week each side dominated quarters at different times.
This week they were the better side most of the game...even in the first when they kicked a lot of points.
Missed McGovern and Hewett. Cottrell has not come back well and maybe should have a game or two in the VFL. Boyd couldn’t hit the side of a barn today.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #28 –
Quote from: LP – on
Rnd 5; Lost Saad early, cost us dearly.
Rnd 7; Kicked 15-15 to lose to Handbaggers 18-10.
Rnd 8; Leading late, Walsh let Daicos run through a stoppage unchecked to score the winner.
Rnd 10; Smashed by Sydney with Grundy among the best.
Rnd 18; Lost to Bulldogs, English probably BoG.

The idea we could go with one ruck and compete against a rampant English with Darcy as the backup is somewhat bizarre. Pitto held his own at stoppages but didn't take a single mark which is costly, but he and TDK got 4 of our 13 centre clearances, Bulldogs had 13 centre clearances also but English got none. If we blame the rucks we are masking the problem.

Lots of spin there. Been crap for us for years. Never been great with 2 rucks.

Our strength is our pressure. When it is on no-one beats us. Playing 2 rucks detracts from that. Pitto v Hewitt, who is in the 2nds right now. Hewitt all day long.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Boyd couldn’t hit the side of a barn today.
Wasn't alone, from static or uncontested plays we've probably given the Dogs 4 or 5 goals today.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"