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Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #90 –
What a roller coaster 🤯
I didn't think we'd win and was ok with the effort overall. How often have the Tigers smalls delivered our rears on a plate?

Some good signs from a couple of the kids again. It will be great for them to be exposed to finals antics. Not that I'm expecting more than 1 final.

Unfortunately, there were too many passengers today. Against a club that would have been revelling in our hideous injury woes.

Recover. Reset the mind. Give it your best in 2 weeks. Hopefully we'll have a few more selection options. When you're down to debutants on the sideline at the pointy end, the odds are heavily stacked against you.

Go Blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #91 –
Team was good enough to make the eight and good enough to win the flag. Thats my opinion.

Midfield played really well - we had no intercept defenders and no key forwards and almost beat a team in red hot form.

Some team structure will help and that includes both martin and Zac in the equation for this season the way the list composition is today. Next year is a different story.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #92 –
We are over due for a but of luck too.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #93 –
What an exhausting day.

Fox sports said the Carlton players would be all together watching the freo port game, would’ve loved to have seen the reaction.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
What happened to fantasia?
Who cares.
If he is even considered for the game against the Lions, in the words of Terry Wallace, I will spew up!

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #95 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
[3] Kicking into the forward line: I could wax lyrical about this one, but the forwards didn't help. They were so static! Haven't they heard of leading? Or opening leading lanes?

To me it’s a stark difference no matter who we play but it’s not the kicking skills, it’s the football nouse from the forwards to be able to create and have the awareness of space - and then, equally as important, for the kickers to quickly calculate where the delivery of the ball will be to their advantage.

How many times did we see the St Kilda forwards run onto the ball that was kicked to where they weren’t … until they were?

Our delivery has never been like this. We rely on Curnow and McKay to win the physical one on one contest. Maybe that’s why Walsh and Kennedy who get the ball A LOT have such poor disposal efficiency ratings?

Frustrates me that this part of our game plan is so poorly developed when one would think it’s an easy skill or system to practice.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #96 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone – on
To me it’s a stark difference no matter who we play but it’s not the kicking skills, it’s the football nouse from the forwards to be able to create and have the awareness of space - and then, equally as important, for the kickers to quickly calculate where the delivery of the ball will be to their advantage.

How many times did we see the St Kilda forwards run onto the ball that was kicked to where they weren’t … until they were?

Our delivery has never been like this. We rely on Curnow and McKay to win the physical one on one contest. Maybe that’s why Walsh and Kennedy who get the ball A LOT have such poor disposal efficiency ratings?

Frustrates me that this part of our game plan is so poorly developed when one would think it’s an easy skill or system to practice.
Sometimes its where the players run to that is the problem. I saw one yesterday where our bloke ran straight towards the vicinity of a StK player and that's where I think it was Kennedy kicked to. The StK player read it and intercepted and the TO occurred. There weren't any options from memory although I'll stand corrected but the lack of awareness of the player to choose to run towards trouble was the problem on that occasion. Happens a lot in our games.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #97 –
Even though Cripps had a very good game and led from the front, to my eyes it didn't just look like it was him and then daylight, which has happened far too often in recent times. I thought Hewett and Walsh also played well.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #98 –
I have been going to the football since 1963. That was one of the best efforts by a Carlton team in 62 years of watching footy. If this team could turn up every week and play out every game like they did yesterday then there would be few problems. The Club's culture for the past 25 years is the team picks and chooses when they are going to have a go. Yesterday they chose to have a go.
I believe we have a very strong list. Moir, Binns and Lord showed how deep we can go the question is why the MC didn't use a player like Binns earlier. There has been times when O.Hollands has struggled this year but giving him a role down back has freed him up and Binns has shown he is ready for AFL football. If you don't give players like Lemmey, Wilson and Akuei a chance in the big show you will never know if they can dance. VFL football is not always a good indicator as to how players will go in the AFL. Also we can concentrate on what players can't do like Young, Motlop and Durdin and miss what they can actually do. These are things Voss should think about.
We have the foundations of a very good team. Congratulations to Silvagni for that. We also have a lot of depth and young players coming through. Congratulations to Austin for that.
Once again we have failed to make top four when we should have. With Curnow, McKay, McGovern, Williams and TDK rested and coming available we can have a real crack and other than Docherty returning I would only consider any of the others being available as helping with depth.
Big shout out to Pittonett and Fantasia for their games,  Walsh played better and it was clear players like Saad, Acres, Kennedy and Durdin were playing through injury. A week's rest should do wonders.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #99 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
The worst team we have put on the park for a couple of years and we lost with nearly last the last kick of the day.
Everyone tells me how great Russell was with Curnow’s knees. Great job there but an absolute bloodbath everybody else.

My recollection is that we were all frustrated with the slowness of Curnow’s recovery.
His return was always “a few weeks away”.

Then I heard that the fitness staff were trying experimental rehab techniques and it was only when they reverted to the tried and tested approach that he came good.

Anyway, hopefully the club chooses wisely going forward and we don’t have that excuse next season.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #100 –
Quote from: Blue Moon – on
The Club's culture for the past 25 years is the team picks and chooses when they are going to have a go.

Could not agree more !!!
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #101 –
Quote from: Blue Moon – on
I have been going to the football since 1963. That was one of the best efforts by a Carlton team in 62 years of watching footy. If this team could turn up every week and play out every game like they did yesterday then there would be few problems.........................

I can't say what it was like way back when, but I'd say it's impossible for any team to maintain that level of intensity week in week out in the modern era. Every team in the finals has had form slumps, some more extended than others. I think the length of the season, number of games etc. is stretching the players too much, but that's another issue.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #102 –
It’s funny how free kicks ended up at 15-17 after being 1-11 at one stage.

Cripps was treated very harshly with a couple of shockers and non-decisions.  I hope the umpires were a little kinder when they awarded the Brownlow votes 🤞

It was a game that got away or rather a game that we let get away.  There was so much to like about the way we went about it - and the way some whipping boys stood up - but some poor decisions and poor execution cost us in the end.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #103 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I can't say what it was like way back when, but I'd say it's impossible for any team to maintain that level of intensity week in week out in the modern era. Every team in the finals has had form slumps, some more extended than others. I think the length of the season, number of games etc. is stretching the players too much, but that's another issue.


Even back in the olden days Paul, with some of our very best sides... there was often a "mid season slump".
It's always been difficult to maintain that level of intensity for an entire season.
It's why no club has ever gone through undefeated.

What is probably a bit different is that there were times back then when sides could 'coast' a bit through games.
These days if you're just couple of percent off with your effort a bottom side can challenge a top side.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #104 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Even though Cripps had a very good game and led from the front, to my eyes it didn't just look like it was him and then daylight, which has happened far too often in recent times. I thought Hewett and Walsh also played well.
Hewett was massive as was Newman
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership