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Supposedly responsible for the greatest on-the-mark sledge of all time - brother Brett, playing for St Kilda, was lining up for goal and Vossy was on the mark.  As he was about to kick, Vossy yelled 'my dad f***ed your mum last night!'

 

An opinion.

An unbiased view. Click the below for head to head comparison.
You will need to change from 'career' to '2024...'
You can change the area the stats look at, scoring/defence/possessions etc.
Fantasia v Motlop

Motlop has him covered.

Fantasia is 'above average' in just 1 stat. Goal assists.
Fantasia is 'below average' or 'average' in every other stat....and there is over 40 of them.

Motlop is 'above average' in 10 stats. Some better than others.
Motlop is 'below average' or 'average' in the rest.

If you add Goal assists and goals together, they both average 1.5 goal (or goal assists) a game, so they generate the same amount of scoring each. Just so happens that Fantasia gets more assists and Motlop gets more goals, but they are equivalent.

People talk about Fantasias pressure as to why he is in the side.
Motlop has him beaten in all pressure stat averages this year, Spoils, tackles, TI50, pressure acts (although Fantasia has more defensive half pressure acts, he has less pressure acts overall)

nope.  I watch footy.  I've seen their output.  I've seen their lack of output. 

Like I said, no two kicks are the same.  No two handballs the same.  No two goals are the same.


Motlop has played 6 games.  6.  How many of them as sub? 

Fantasia has played 14.  Been subbed off and played as sub in multiple.

Go average out their time on ground percentages and compare their stats again.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&pid1=6970&fid1=S&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&pid2=3968&fid2=S&type=A



Here's a site that will do it for you.  The ones in bold under orazios side tell you which was the greater number.

Both off a low base, but one has done more than the other off less average game time per game.

I know about footywire and was going to post the exact same thing but decided against it.
Mainly for a couple reasons.
1. AFL site compares against all AFL players playing similar positions. That is, all our small forwards are essentially underperforming.
2. Given how equal or equally bad they are, you should ALWAYS go the younger option as that is where the upside is.

Also ask why Fantasia has lower game time. He has been used as the sub, and he has been subbed out because he has been poor. Not sure you want to use that in a positive light.
But 'watching football' and 'knowing their (lack of) output', you're aware of that already.

statistically speaking who had the better season off less game time?

Regarding subs and game time I'll simply point out that motlop didn't get near the seniors until the players were well and truly breaking down, and maybe just maybe, stats aren't actually supporting your opinion without adding age as a subjective vote splitter.  The fact is, the stats have highlighted that orazio has been better than you thought, even though both are "below average".

No he hasn't been better than i thought. He has been 'below average'. Which when you recruit a 28yo, is not good enough.
Thats why he has been used subbed off 4 times this year...and started sub once.
Apparantly he played 'great' this week though.
He had 10 touches.
He had 5 turnovers.
But lets celebrate how great he was by showing a 1minute highlights clip.....which shows the same highlights from 4 different angles to pad out that 1 minute.

Not buying it.

4 turnovers but let's not let the stats get in the way shall we.

Jesse is no where near it

but has the most upside and body built for AFL,

5 according to AFL stats.

Motlop was.never going to play well this year given he lost too much of the season. He was good when it mattered last year, though. Especially late. As for Fantasia, he needed a year under his belt after so long out  He will be better next year for us. Both struggled this year for different reasons and will be much better in 2025.

I'd have neither in our first final but depends on who is available too.