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Who is in our best 22?

1 - Jack Silvagni ** ineligible, out for year**
[ 0 ] (0%)
2 - Lachie Cowan
[ 8 ] (2.8%)
3 - Jesse Motlop
[ 2 ] (0.7%)
4 - Oliver Hollands
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
5 - Adam Cerra
[ 9 ] (3.2%)
6 - Zac Williams
[ 12 ] (4.2%)
7 - Matt Kennedy
[ 12 ] (4.2%)
8 - Lachie Fogarty
[ 5 ] (1.8%)
9 - Patrick Cripps
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
10 - Harry McKay
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
11 - Mitch McGovern
[ 12 ] (4.2%)
12 - Tom De Koning
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
13 - Blake Acres
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
14 - Orazio Fantasia
[ 2 ] (0.7%)
15 - Sam Docherty  ** ineligible, out for year**
[ 1 ] (0.4%)
16 - Jack Carroll
[ 2 ] (0.7%)
17 - Brodie Kemp
[ 12 ] (4.2%)
18 - Sam Walsh
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
19 - Corey Durdin
[ 0 ] (0%)
20 - Elijah Hollands
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
21 - Jack Martin
[ 3 ] (1.1%)
22 - Caleb Marchbank
[ 0 ] (0%)
23 - Jacob Weitering
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
24 - Nick Newman
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
25 - Jaxon Binns
[ 2 ] (0.7%)
27 - Marc Pittonet
[ 4 ] (1.4%)
28 - David Cuningham
[ 0 ] (0%)
29 - George Hewett
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
30 - Charlie Curnow
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
31 - Harry Lemmey
[ 0 ] (0%)
32 - Matt Carroll
[ 0 ] (0%)
33 - Lewis Young
[ 3 ] (1.1%)
34 - Rob Monahan
[ 0 ] (0%)
35 - Billy Wilson
[ 0 ] (0%)
37 - Jordan Boyd
[ 7 ] (2.5%)
38 - Sam Durdin
[ 0 ] (0%)
39 - Alex Cincotta
[ 13 ] (4.6%)
40 - Hudson O'Keeffe
[ 0 ] (0%)
41 - Dom Akuei
[ 0 ] (0%)
42 - Adam Saad
[ 12 ] (4.2%)
43 - Ashton Moir
[ 5 ] (1.8%)
44 - Matt Owies
[ 11 ] (3.9%)
45 - Alex Mirkov
[ 0 ] (0%)
46 - Matt Cottrell
[ 3 ] (1.1%)
*36 - Cooper Lord - MSD pickup
[ 2 ] (0.7%)

Total Members Voted: 13

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Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

OK, well its time for our latest installment of this and this may be the most difficult one for the year.

Assume all players are fit unless mentioned otherwise above.

Plenty of kids showing some talent coming through of late, and plenty of players on the injury list who would probably walk back in. So who do you keep out?

Use this to help....
http://jimmae.epizy.com/teamboard.html?i=3

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Reply #1
For comparisons sake later, here is my best 22.

FB - Boyd - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Kemp - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O. Hollands
HF - Owies - McKay - Kennedy
FF - Martin - Curnow - Williams
R - DeKoning - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Cerra - Cincotta - E. Hollands - Cowan

FWIW My Sub - Motlop

Unlucky....
Cottrell - Fogarty - Moir

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Reply #2
I just picked my team for the EF, assuming that Charlie, Harry, Tom, Zac are fit but Cerra isn't.  It is:

FB - Kemp - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Young - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O. Hollands
HF - Williams - McKay - De Koning
FF - Owies - Curnow - E. Hollands
R - Pittonet - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Cincotta - Lord - Cowan - Kennedy - Binns

For your exercise, Binns comes out and Cerra replaces Lord.  Ollie Hollands' good form gets him the nod over Cottrell and I can't fit Fogarty in.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3
Pretty close Kruds.

FB - Boyd - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Kemp - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O. Hollands
HF - Owies - McKay - Kennedy
FF -Fogarty - Curnow - Williams
R - DeKoning - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Cerra - Cincotta - E. Hollands - Cowan

Sub : Moir

I'd have Martin out (Unreliable fitness wise- and that has to be a huge factor) and Fogarty in..because he is reliable and applies forward defensive pressure

I want a fit Cottrell in the side...but I can't find a place for him
Moir has two games but he's already proved to be a great sub who can impact and give a spark.

Motlop really needs to unlock a bit of that potential I think he may possess next season, because he's just not doing enough at the moment.

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Reply #4
FB - Boyd - Young - Newman
HB - Saad -  Weitering - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O. Hollands
HF - Owies - McKay - Fogarty
FF - Fantasia - Curnow - Williams
R - DeKoning - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Kemp - Cincotta - E. Hollands - Kennedy
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #5
There is a lot more uncertainty now than there was the previous couple iterations of this list.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #6
Staggered Cottrell hasn't got at least one vote.
I tried hard to squeeze him in.
He had a bit of a lacklustre return from injury and that may have pushed him to the back of folks minds.
At his best though he'd be ahead of some of the players picking up 1 and 2 votes.

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Reply #7
Staggered Cottrell hasn't got at least one vote.
I tried hard to squeeze him in.
He had a bit of a lacklustre return from injury and that may have pushed him to the back of folks minds.
At his best though he'd be ahead of some of the players picking up 1 and 2 votes.

Yep. He was 24th on my list.

In the last version of this, he was in 90% of peoples teams. (9 of 10)

Seems his sub-par return has dropped a few spots in peoples minds.
obviously the newer kids have made an impression too.
Lord, Moir and Binns have 5 votes between them thus far.
They all had 0 last time.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #8
Staggered Cottrell hasn't got at least one vote.
I tried hard to squeeze him in.
He had a bit of a lacklustre return from injury and that may have pushed him to the back of folks minds.
At his best though he'd be ahead of some of the players picking up 1 and 2 votes.

Cotters would be an automatic selection … on his early season form.  He really dropped back into the pack on his return from injury. The other side of the coin is the late season burst put on by Ollie Hollands and the emergence of “Good” Lord, Binns and Moir.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #9
Thinking about it....
He should probably be added to the 'end of season' list
Doc is more chance of playing again this year.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #10
I just picked my team for the EF, assuming that Charlie, Harry, Tom, Zac are fit but Cerra isn't.  It is:

FB - Kemp - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Young - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O. Hollands
HF - Williams - McKay - De Koning
FF - Owies - Curnow - E. Hollands
R - Pittonet - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Cincotta - Lord - Cowan - Kennedy - Binns

For your exercise, Binns comes out and Cerra replaces Lord.  Ollie Hollands' good form gets him the nod over Cottrell and I can't fit Fogarty in.
I don't want this discussion to continue in here, but i just wanted to point something out. Since it is so clearly demonstrated here.

I've been arguing all year about team balance, only needing 1 ruck and suggesting pressure is better value to the team.
People always argue that adding a ruck doesn't deminish the ability to provide pressure.

The above team shows exactly that. Playing Pittonet shows that De Koning is literally taking the spot Fogarty in this team.

As Lods said...
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and Fogarty in..because he is reliable and applies forward defensive pressure

Couldn't have scripted that any better.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #11
Thinking about it....
He should probably be added to the 'end of season' list
Doc is more chance of playing again this year.

There is reason to the madness.

Its to keep an even playing field when it comes to analysis.
If we lose a player early on, i just wipe them from all the votes to keep it simple.
If we lose a player mid-year for the rest of the year, then it becomes too messy with the analysis and determining overall trends on best 22.

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Reply #12
Staggered Cottrell hasn't got at least one vote.
I tried hard to squeeze him in.
He had a bit of a lacklustre return from injury and that may have pushed him to the back of folks minds.
At his best though he'd be ahead of some of the players picking up 1 and 2 votes.

I went by this year's form.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #13
Early on there was talk about AA form.

That certainly evaporated after the injury though....didn't help we rushed him straight back into the team.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2024 - PART 6 - pre-finals bye

Reply #14
I don't want this discussion to continue in here, but i just wanted to point something out. Since it is so clearly demonstrated here.

I've been arguing all year about team balance, only needing 1 ruck and suggesting pressure is better value to the team.
People always argue that adding a ruck doesn't deminish the ability to provide pressure.

The above team shows exactly that. Playing Pittonet shows that De Koning is literally taking the spot Fogarty in this team.

As Lods said...
Couldn't have scripted that any better.

Actually, De Koning has taken Fantasia’s spot and Williams has Fogarty’s place.

I opted for Williams over Fogarty because the former is more versatile, is a better mark, kicks goals and offers similar defensive pressure.

You apply pressure to the opposition by stretching their defence, running their first ruck into the ground and exploiting their second stringer.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!