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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #90 –
@Lods
I dont agree that the result flattered us, I think we merely fought back. It happens, we could not have possibly played any worse than the first 55 min. I would flip it and say the 60-0 start flattered them. We were truly abhorrent for that first 55 mins. As soon as  we started (albeit too late) applying some pressure and playing contested footy, they started filling their shorts.

Agree wholeheartedly re Young and the Cincotta non selection, I was waiting for him to be a late change as I thought he was the one we couldnt possibly leave out. Playing Durdin, Motlop and Fantasia was a clear mistake given the lack of output from the first two in that trio in recent weeks.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #91 –
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2024-carlton-blues-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-from-first-elimination-final-patrick-cripps-sam-docherty-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/466ffeed2df7cb0d0b307fcfb86edf3f

Worst players...
Williams - 2
Durdin - 2
Motlop - 3
O. Hollands - 3
Kennedy - 3
Fantasia - 4
Cowan - 4
Cerra - 4
Kemp - 4
Saad - 4

4 small forwards and cerra was who I had an issue with pre-game.

5 of our worst 10 players were from that group including the worst 2.

I also had an issue with tdk starting as sub and said he shouldve started.
Tdk - 6
Pittonet - 6
Walsh - 6
Newman - 6
Weitering - 6
Acres - 7
Cripps - 8
Hewett - 8

'Post game experts' they say.


The loss is hard enough to take.
But when you can highlight the issues before the game (and I'm not alone in this) it makes it all that harder to take.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #92 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2024-carlton-blues-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-from-first-elimination-final-patrick-cripps-sam-docherty-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/466ffeed2df7cb0d0b307fcfb86edf3f

Worst players...
Williams - 2
Durdin - 2
Motlop - 3
O. Hollands - 3
Kennedy - 3
Fantasia - 4
Cowan - 4
Cerra - 4
Kemp - 4
Saad - 4

4 small forwards and cerra was who I had an issue with pre-game.

5 of our worst 10 players were from that group including the worst 2.

I also had an issue with tdk starting as sub and said he shouldve started.
Tdk - 6
Pittonet - 6
Walsh - 6
Newman - 6
Weitering - 6
Acres - 7
Cripps - 8
Hewett - 8

'Post game experts' they say.


The loss is hard enough to take.
But when you can highlight the issues before the game (and I'm not alone in this) it makes it all that harder to take.


So lets take out the worst -Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Ollie Hollands.

Substitute them with Lord, Moir, Binns and Cincotta.

Do we win?

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #93 –
OH ran his guts out and actually won some contested footy, surrounded by largely uncompetitive team-mates, then nullified Zorko, "the experts" are rock throwing morons!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Lods – on
So lets take out the worst -Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Ollie Hollands.

Substitute them with Lord, Moir, Binns and Cincotta.

Do we win?
Nope, but we would have an excuse!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #95 –
60 -0, hardly went forward. Blame the small forwards.
Really???

Pittonet, Cripps, Cerra and Walsh got their butts kicked in that time. That was the ball game.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #96 –
Who was supposed to be on Zorko in the first half?
It's all hypothetical but Cinch at least gave us an option for Zorko and the squealer.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #97 –
Quote from: Lods – on
So lets take out the worst -Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Ollie Hollands.

Substitute them with Lord, Moir, Binns and Cincotta.

Do we win?
No.
But that's not what I would've done.

Keep hollands.

Choose any 2 smalls to go out.
I would've chosen durdin and fantasia to miss.

Tdk starts.
Moir is sub.

Cincotta comes in and cerra goes out.
Your last spot goes to either lord, carroll or binns. Probably Carroll but given he is likely to be going maybe go lord instead.

Ins: cincotta, moir lord/Carroll/binns
Outs: cerra, durdin, fantasia

We lose nothing from those changes but gain hope.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #98 –
We had no winners anywhere, and turned up half asleep. Cincotta, Charlie Curnow, small forwards etc would have made little difference.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #99 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
60 -0, hardly went forward. Blame the small forwards.
Really???

Pittonet, Cripps, Cerra and Walsh got their butts kicked in that time. That was the ball game.

I'm not blaming the small forwards, I'm blaming the mc.
They are what they are and they do what they do.
When you have 4 of them, it limits your options instantly to make moves.
The ball didnt go forward so it meant that we had 6 players who were out of the game and couldn't change things around to get them into the game.
4 small forwards were stuck there or on the bench.
Harry and Kemp had no influence either, but at least Harry could go in the ruck. Kemp could go back if required.
The others.....nowhere.

As I said pregame....
Cincotta kicks as many goals as our small forwards (when played forward, even defensively) but he can be played elsewhere as well.
Rotate him through the middle. Put him down back.
We lacked versatility from our small forwards and it hamstrung us.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #100 –
After banishing the thought of a Pitto /  TDK combo halfway through the season, "the experts" want them in stone cold as a duo functioning in perfect harmony in a final.

My suggestion to fans, find some better "experts"!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #101 –
Another bloke we simply have to move on from is Williams.  Voss won't drop this clown, who other than some kind of forward  role can't play on ball and is the worst defender in the AFL.  We dropped effective players to play this passenger - AGAIN.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #102 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Another bloke we simply have to move on from is Williams.  Voss won't drop this clown, who other than some kind of forward  role can't play on ball and is the worst defender in the AFL.  We dropped effective players to play this passenger - AGAIN.
Amazing he gets paid $800k pa.
4th highest behind Cripps, Walsh, Weiters

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #103 –
Quote from: LP – on
After banishing the thought of a Pitto /  TDK combo halfway through the season, "the experts" want them in stone cold as a duo functioning in perfect harmony in a final.

My suggestion to fans, find some better "experts"!

We are better with just TDK. That debate is over.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #104 –
Quote from: LP – on
After banishing the thought of a Pitto /  TDK combo halfway through the season, "the experts" want them in stone cold as a duo functioning in perfect harmony in a final.

My suggestion to fans, find some better "experts"!

You are starting to make me think you have some serious mental issues so I shouldn't go too hard on you.

This post shows you have zero idea about what you've been arguing against for years.