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Who wins 2024?

Yes we have been bundled out - so I have zero care who wins.

So disappointed in this year.

To be second on the ladder to being so terrible is unacceptable.

Regardless - I don’t have a soft spot for anyone left and will be tuning out of the finals series now 👋🏼

But do you have someone and why?

Re: Who wins 2024?

Reply #1 –
I wouldn't mind seeing GWS winning a 1st. I'd much rather not see Geelong or Hawthorn win again this year.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #2 –
Yep.  Gws all the way.  I'd be ok with port winning a flag too.

Hate the rest.  Brisbane are a club I'd be ok winning a flag, but geez some of their players are hard to like.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Who wins 2024?

Reply #3 –
Sydney
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #4 –
If Hawthorn make it to the GF, I'd back them against the remaining teams.

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Reply #5 –
I reckon they're all pretty average....which makes our drop-off even more disappointing.
All have their issues, except Hawthorn...whose only issue seems to be youthful enthusiasm. :D

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Reply #6 –
Geelong
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #7 –
Not Hawks
Not cats
....they've had their fair share.

Port are fun watching implode so let that continue.

Swans are a safe choice and that doesn't other me.
Gws is a choice that doesn't really bother anyone.
Brisbane probably deserve one given how good they've been over last few years and losing to the eventual premiers can take a bot of sting off the double elimination by them.

So any of the last 3 for me.

Re: Who wins 2024?

Reply #8 –
Dawks.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Quote from: Baggers – on
Dawks.
Yep, I think while they are in form, using the ball the way they are using it, there is an efficiency of ball use that let's them get on with the game.

Fans focus on the Dawks run, but watch their games and most players hardly take a step or two before disposing, and they hit a target so it's not wasted. The ball movement is fast and elite, the run isn't expansive but the ball use is.

The Handbaggers played a very similar style, and they are the other stand out, they get maximum result from an economy of effort.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: LP – on
but watch their games and most players hardly take a step or two before disposing, and they hit a target so it's not wasted.

Back in the threepeat era that team called it "Mitchell ball" because it was Sam's tactic they all copied. When they mark the ball they hold their spot and look side ways to dispose of the ball instead of automatically running back 10 steps giving up time and ground. This is even more effective in 2024 with the guy on the mark not allowed to move.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Quote from: madbluboy – on
Back in the threepeat era that team called it "Mitchell ball" because it was Sam's tactic they all copied. When they mark the ball they hold their spot and look side ways to dispose of the ball instead of automatically running back 10 steps giving up time and ground. This is even more effective in 2024 with the guy on the mark not allowed to move.
Mitchell could do this because he could hit targets left or right with hand or foot, our blokes can't even hit targets on their preferred.

Modern AFL players can't even handball properly anymore, it's bizarre that the half throws of modern AFL players can't hit targets 5m away!

Or is it that the handball is so so bad because they are trying to punch a moving target?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: LP – on
Mitchell could do this because he could hit targets left or right with hand or foot, our blokes can't even hit targets on their preferred.

Modern AFL players can't even handball properly anymore, it's bizarre that the half throws of modern AFL players can't hit targets 5m away!

Or is it that the handball is so so bad because they are trying to punch a moving target?

I think the rule changes around HTB etc are a big reason behind the hot potato disposal epidemic.

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Quote from: PaulP – on
I think the rule changes around HTB etc are a big reason behind the hot potato disposal epidemic.
Possibly, we can't talk in absolutes.

But relatively, watch them dispose of the ball when tackled, and compare to our disposal of the ball when tackled. They find a team-mate, we find an opponent.

Funnily or not so funnily @PaulP, what happened yesterday was what I had originally feared would happen when the rule emphasis changed. I thought the new HTB and Ruck rule interpretation disadvantaged our Rucks and Mids, and advantaged blokes like Meek and McInerney, but we seemed to have escaped those effects until yesterday.

It's bizarre some at Carlton would call for removal of prior, an even worse situation for our slower midfield that relies on bigger heavier bodies to create a clearance.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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You know voss points to consistency.  

Has our club been the picture of consistency over the journey?  I'd say not. You know who has?  Sydney, Brisbane, hawthorn, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Western bulldogs and to a degree you can say that about gws who still boast plenty of foundation players.

Maybe the lesson is off field impacts on field more than we think.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson