Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Reply #66 –
Tex. I love ya to bits. Please understand that drinking might not be the only key issue here. Sure violence is more common with the consumption with alcohol. However those that are naturally mean and angry, and with issues do not need alcohol to tip them off to be nasty aggressive people. In fact to take all alcohol off the shelves would only push them to take exotic drugs as your study shows. I understand your studies. I understand the figures. Do we blame every action on what people have taken ? Alcohol doesn't make a mild mannered citizen a violent killer. Its their basic nature that does.
Idiots don't need a trigger at all times, its just something that helps set them off. How many of us know many happy drunks that have great natures and just laugh when they are heavily under the influence of the amber fluid. Alcohol doesn't stop the problem at all times. Sure it helps but we need to get deep down to the real issues. I know you said anger management against 19 to 29 year old males means taking away their balls in the process. Something along those lines anyway. Their violent behaviour needs to be put in line. Not just their drinking habbits. Why do I say this ? Give them some and then watch them go. Then you will see some real trouble. What you ingest doesn't always make you a prick. If your a prick, you need help.
Influences in our systems bring out the worst in us as humans. Drugs don't make us evil. What we are makes us what we are because of what we have learned to become. Yes we gat a little foolish at times but our own education and experiences as children moulds us to be what we really are. Nice people, primitive animals, or just plain pricks. Don't blame substances all the time. A prick is a prick sober or under the influence of any drug. Sorry Tex not going against you because I understand your point, but looking at the cost to society means any lives saved, or any harm removed is the ultimate solution.
Educate the youth as best you can, and punish those that cross the line. Its a never win situation, but like the road toll it van be minimised. They increased the penalties for drink driving and for all the road offences. They put more police on the roads we drive. Hence our road toll is as low as it was back something like 15 to 20 years when we had 5 million lees population. It comes at a cost, but how much do put on a human life. When you say cost its a dollar value, but when a person dies what dollar value is the to the community, state, or federal government. What is a human life worth dead, or seriously damaged for their entire life ?
Sorry Tex its like I am having a go at you, but I really am not. I just hate this issue where we point the blame. The blame at what ? Idiots ? Or do we justify their behaviour on what they take ?