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Re: Djokovic v TJ / Ch9

Reply #90 –
The case is laughable. She called him " Stupid and white"
He asked her if she would pay for the taxi damages and she showed him her bank balance. He said he was belittled by that lol.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #91 –
She carried on like an entitled flog and the implication is she pulled the "don't you know who I am" schtick (ironically, in itself a form of privilege).  If she had of just shut up, apologised nicely and paid for stuff it would have all gone away quietly....morale of story don't lip a cop it never ends well.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #92 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Yes, on one hand you've got the sexism thing/prejudice (female claiming male indifference, prejudice against LGTBI people, coloured person v police issues, uncomfortable scenario- potential deprivation of liberty locked in cab) vs. criminal damage, spewing in a cab, threats and abusive language towards a police officer.  It's not a good look being boozed and up and abusive and it will be interesting to see how the Crown adjudicates this.  I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a suspended sentence or a very hefty fine.
Agree, cant see her getting off given the taxi incident and then the Police involvement, clearly alcohol involved and disorderly behaviour followed and Id be expecting more of a good behaviour bond and fine type of punishment.
Be interesting how her club Chelsea and Aus soccer view her behaviour..

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Reply #93 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Yes, on one hand you've got the sexism thing/prejudice (female claiming male indifference, prejudice against LGTBI people, coloured person v police issues, uncomfortable scenario- potential deprivation of liberty locked in cab) vs. criminal damage, spewing in a cab, threats and abusive language towards a police officer.  It's not a good look being boozed and up and abusive and it will be interesting to see how the Crown adjudicates this.  I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a suspended sentence or a very hefty fine.

A sequence of poor decisions by Kerr and her partner.

When you consider “You guys are stupid and white, you guys are f***ing stupid and white.” together with, “This is a racial f***ing thing. You are believing that guy out the front over £50. Listen to the f***ing recording, this stupid c**t wouldn’t let us go.” it’s pretty clear that Kerr played the race card and used offensive, if not racist, language.

Kerr’s lawyer is not denying that she used racist language but says that she did not feel hostility towards Lovell because he is white.  My understanding is that the issue is not Kerr’s feelings towards Lovell but rather the impact of Kerr’s comments on Lovell.

Hard to know which way it will go but I suspect she’ll be admonished without conviction so as not to affect her ability to travel.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #94 –
All in all it is a sordid incident and her reputation, given the vast amount of goodwill she had earned, is sullied.
Nobody wins when a night on the sauce goes bad.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #95 –
Playing the race card on video might get you support in the radical USA, you know because it's "speaking your truth" and you've lived "an oppressed life", but it's going to get you cooked like a Christmas goose in the UK.

Judges and courts are not captain's pick in the UK.

Anyway, it just proves to be a sporting star there is no need to be a brain surgeon, perhaps it turns out Kerr is so good on the field because it's all reflex and little thought!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #96 –
If the taxi driver tried what he did on a couple of drunken men it might have been more than damage to his taxi.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #97 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
If the taxi driver tried what he did on a couple of drunken men it might have been more than damage to his taxi.
But they'd be guilty too! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #98 –
All the news reports back when it first broke claimed she called the cop a "Stupid white bastard"

She said " Stupid and White"

How do they get that wrong?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #99 –
Some folk are missing the point that the taxi driver was following police instructions when he drove directly to a police station.

It’s interesting that the police didn’t leak details of the incident and the media were forced to fill in the gaps with what they thought happened and was said.  At the time of the arrest, Kerr’s lawyers claimed that she said, “stupid white cop”. 

It’s hard to argue with both the content and context of the body cam footage.  I guess Kerr’s lawyers were counting on her profile, ethnicity and persuasion bullying Lovell into dropping the charges.

It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #100 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
Yes, on one hand you've got the sexism thing/prejudice (female claiming male indifference, prejudice against LGTBI people, coloured person v police issues, uncomfortable scenario- potential deprivation of liberty locked in cab) vs. criminal damage, spewing in a cab, threats and abusive language towards a police officer.  It's not a good look being boozed and up and abusive and it will be interesting to see how the Crown adjudicates this.  I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a suspended sentence or a very hefty fine.
Agree, cant see her getting off given the taxi incident and then the Police involvement, clearly alcohol involved and disorderly behaviour followed and Id be expecting more of a good behaviour bond and fine type of punishment.
Be interesting how her club Chelsea and Aus soccer view her behaviour..
she'll be in trouble, but she won't be the first footballer behaving badly and odds are her club won't do much. Football Australia might be different.   We pride ourselves on nonsense like double downing on criminal proceedings with athletes sighting them role models like they're superheroes not humans who make bad judgement calls at times.

Harry McGuire from Manchester United got into a brawl and locked up on a Greek island.  Don't think there was much but a slap on the wrist from his club.  The English FA had stood him down but that was matches very close to the trial where he was handed a suspended sentence so they might have done so for optics more than anything else (he wasn't playing particularly well at the time, and is very replacable).
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #101 –
It's ridiculous that this has gone on to be a 3-day court case.  She's certainly not innocent, but it's hardly worthy of the amount of effort they have gone to - surely she could have fronted a magistrate, got a fine and paid for damages? 

Unless the court case is her idea.....?
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Reply #102 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
It's ridiculous that this has gone on to be a 3-day court case.  She's certainly not innocent, but it's hardly worthy of the amount of effort they have gone to - surely she could have fronted a magistrate, got a fine and paid for damages?

Unless the court case is her idea.....?

The cop got a grilling about it today. Why it took him 11 months to say his feelings were hurt lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #103 –
I reckon its a situation of she is anything but contrite.  Else it would have been dismissed fairly quickly.

Usually these things are straight forward.  If you actually acknowledge your wrong doing, it all goes away quickly.  The footage leaked last night, shows her going racism at the police in the cop station afterwards, not the cabby, to which the officer is heard to say we are adding a charge to this.

They showed footage from cameras on the police officer in the station yesterday.  Obviuosly its been edited in a way to make her look bad, but here is the kicker.  Miranda rights.  Say nothing, and go on your way, else it can and will be used against you.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #104 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
All the news reports back when it first broke claimed she called the cop a "Stupid white bastard"
@MBB There is your error, listening too or wishing to believe the media.

The kid has made a stupid mistake, there is no point in slighting 3rd parties to try and protect her from her errors.

The law has made zero effort to publicise the events, it seems all of the alleged media leaking is coming from Kerr's side of the bench, they want to paint it as a stitch up but there seems to be zero evidence to support that claim.

Society can't afford to have subjectivity in law, if she gets off the public should be outraged, it makes no difference in how the abuse was gift wrapped, it's still abuse. We are all equals, we wouldn't get off, neither should the famous, wealthy or infamous.

You are innocent until proven guilty, Kerr shot herself in the foot sledging people on official video. Personally, I think she has had some very bad legal advice, unless it turns into an earner somehow and she might not care!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"