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Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #30
Boyd and Carroll as inclusions, the other kids not yet.
Williams and MacGovern are two that must be very much under the microscope.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #31
Okay, let's keep selecting players who haven't earnt it.

There has to be a line in the sand moment for this club & the only way to ge there is by dropping a couple of senior players who have been coasting thus far.

If you chaps can't understand the logic of that then I feel sorry for you.

So tell us which senior players and their replacements and why they’ll improve things…?
I mean Moir had a ripper game on Friday after kicking the selection door down.

He's all bark and no bite.

@LordLucifer
"Let's keep selecting players that haven't earned it"
or we could go your path of selecting players who have earned it even less!

Your first player listed as an 'in'

Billy Wilson in the VFL.
10 disposals - 4 tackles.
0 AFL games

Your first player listed as an 'out'
Blake Acres in the AFL
30 disposals - 5 tackles
171 AFL games

Tell me again how this improves the side.

Don't worry, i'll save you the embarrassment and point out that it clearly doesn't.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #32


So tell us which senior players and their replacements and why they’ll improve things…?
I mean Moir had a ripper game on Friday after kicking the selection door down.

Maybe there is nothing to bring in, how about changing some roles (within reason). E.g. The turnover stats for Gov are horrible, 17 (worst in the comp) and 7 have directly resulted in goals to the opposition (that's 42 points of our 58 point total losing margin).  Thats unsustainable. Im sure they are working with him to rectify this however if it continues, there must be a tipping point surely.

Sure, I agree there’s a tipping point.
Gov is skillful, fast and creative, unfortunately he’s not playing his best at the moment.
Who will play his position better and where can we utilise Gov ?

Should we play “forwards to the backline” after 1/2 time… 🤔
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #33
Skillful fast and creative?  Haven't seen any of that for 18 months. His turnovers and abject failure to play his role have killed us this year, seriously a traffic cone would be better value because it wouldn't miss targets and #$@! up.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #34
Skillful fast and creative?  Haven't seen any of that for 18 months. His turnovers and abject failure to play his role have killed us this year, seriously a traffic cone would be better value because it wouldn't miss targets and #$@! up.

Cool story bro… 🙄
Gimme some solutions not garbage and I’ll listen.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #35
B: Kemp   Weitering   Haynes
HB: Hollands  Silvagni  Carroll
C:  Walsh     Cripps    Acres
HF: Cottrell   McKay   Hollands
F:  Motlop   Curnow   Durdin
R: TDK       Cerra    Hewett
IC: Lemmey  Lord  Boyd  White 

In: McKay, E Hollands, Lemmey, Boyd, Carroll, Durdin, Cottrell
Out: Williams, McGovern, Docherty, Saad, Young, Fogarty Moir

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #36
B: Kemp   Weitering   Haynes
HB: Hollands  Silvagni  Carroll
C:  Walsh     Cripps    Acres
HF: Cottrell   McKay   Hollands
F:  Motlop   Curnow   Durdin
R: TDK       Cerra    Hewett
IC: Lemmey  Lord  Boyd  White 

In: McKay, E Hollands, Lemmey, Boyd, Carroll, Durdin, Cottrell
Out: Williams, McGovern, Docherty, Saad, Young, Fogarty Moir
I'd bare my ass in Burke St (or Hastings St given I'm on the Sunshine Coast ATM) if those changes were made.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #37
B: Kemp   Weitering   Haynes
HB: Hollands  Silvagni  Carroll
C:  Walsh     Cripps    Acres
HF: Cottrell   McKay   Hollands
F:  Motlop   Curnow   Durdin
R: TDK       Cerra    Hewett
IC: Lemmey  Lord  Boyd  White 

In: McKay, E Hollands, Lemmey, Boyd, Carroll, Durdin, Cottrell
Out: Williams, McGovern, Docherty, Saad, Young, Fogarty Moir

Tanking already?
You know we don't have a 1st round pick yeah.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #38
Okay, let's keep selecting players who haven't earnt it.

There has to be a line in the sand moment for this club & the only way to ge there is by dropping a couple of senior players who have been coasting thus far.

If you chaps can't understand the logic of that then I feel sorry for you.

You have Moir at CHF……


Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #39
Quite clearly, some of you just don't get it and probably never will.

I''m not going to waste my time spelling it out for you either. 
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #40
Maybe there is nothing to bring in, how about changing some roles (within reason). E.g. The turnover stats for Gov are horrible, 17 (worst in the comp) and 7 have directly resulted in goals to the opposition (that's 42 points of our 58 point total losing margin).  Thats unsustainable. Im sure they are working with him to rectify this however if it continues, there must be a tipping point surely.

Thank-you GIC, it's refreshing to read an alternative view to what is the norm around here right now.

We just cannot keep playing the same guys in the same positions & think it will automatically click and we will be premiership faves once again.



“if you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got” - HENRY FORD


 
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #41
Quite clearly, some of you just don't get it and probably never will.

I''m not going to waste my time spelling it out for you either.

Oh please do. Educate us with your pull a name out of a hat strategy. 
"Tada" that's better.
😆


Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #42
B: Kemp   Weitering   Haynes
HB: Hollands  Silvagni  Carroll
C:  Walsh     Cripps    Acres
HF: Cottrell   McKay   Hollands
F:  Motlop   Curnow   Durdin
R: TDK       Cerra    Hewett
IC: Lemmey  Lord  Boyd  White 

In: McKay, E Hollands, Lemmey, Boyd, Carroll, Durdin, Cottrell
Out: Williams, McGovern, Docherty, Saad, Young, Fogarty Moir

Tanking already?
You know we don't have a 1st round pick yeah.

Why?

backline has four first round picks
Midfield has four first round picks
forward line has three first round picks

IC - youngsters that deserve a run over the under performers. I'll take Lemmey over Young every day of the week. The four experienced players need to start acting and playing like it.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #43


Tanking already?
You know we don't have a 1st round pick yeah.

Why?

backline has four first round picks
Midfield has four first round picks
forward line has three first round picks

IC - youngsters that deserve a run over the under performers. I'll take Lemmey over Young every day of the week. The four experienced players need to start acting and playing like it.

Cottrell is injured for one.
Carroll and Lemmey haven't played a game yet and form doesn't warrant it.
Not sure where you are expecting lemmey to even play since you've got Charlie, Harry and Kemp already in the forwardline.
The other ins are plausible on their own, but you simple don't make that many changes at once, especially when playing first gamers.
So, you must be tanking.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #44
B: Kemp   Weitering   Haynes
HB: Hollands  Silvagni  Carroll
C:  Walsh     Cripps    Acres
HF: Cottrell   McKay   Hollands
F:  Motlop   Curnow   Durdin
R: TDK       Cerra    Hewett
IC: Lemmey  Lord  Boyd  White 

In: McKay, E Hollands, Lemmey, Boyd, Carroll, Durdin, Cottrell
Out: Williams, McGovern, Docherty, Saad, Young, Fogarty Moir
I'd bare my ass in Burke St (or Hastings St given I'm on the Sunshine Coast ATM) if those changes were made.
Saad will be in for starters of course BUT if those changes do happen we all want a time, place just to make sure it happens...lol.