Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: DJC – on May 13, 2025, 03:40:38 pm

Why do you say that EB?

Among Chalmers' qualifications is a commerce degree and he has published on economics.  The Fin Review got ten economists to rate his performance out of ten in January last year and he got 5.5, 6, 2X6.5, 3X7, 7.5, 8 and 8-9.  While that's not a random or representative sample, an average rating of 7.95 isn't too shabby.  Chalmers is quite a polished public speaker and that can be useful in obscuring any gaps in knowledge.

Labor's Assistant Treasurer, Dan Mulino, has a PhD in economics from Yale.  Assistant Minister for Productivity, Competition, Charities & Treasury, Andrew Leigh, has a PhD in economics, as does Andrew Charlton, Cabinet Secretary and the Assistant Minister for Science, Technology and the Digital Economy.  Finance Minister, Katy Gallagher, doesn't have any formal qualifications in economics or related fields and qualified as a social worker.

Angus Taylor has a Bachelor of Economics and a Master of Philosophy in Economics from Oxford.

Anyway, Sussan Ley narrowly won the Liberal leadership vote and has Ted O’Brien as her deputy.  Jacinta Nampijinpa Price withdrew from the deputy leadership ballot after Taylor lost.

Ley will be like the girl with the wheelbarrow, she has the job in front of her, but it is quite a remarkable achievement for her to become the first female leader of the Liberal Party.

Chalmers is a good Politician, presents well, speaks well until asked a technical question about economics where he does a good obscuring his gaps in knowledge as you suggested  by waffling about Labour Policy and Liberal failings. I listen to a podcast called the money cafe and he came across clueless on a range of issues, I can understand why Albanese has promoted Mulino as assistant Treasurer because he does know what he is talking about and id expect to see more of him doing interviews and handling people such as Sarah Ferguson on the ABC who seems to enjoy taking down JC.
Snake" Chalmers" has come out today and said he needs two more terms to fix the economy???....6-9 years.....your kidding Jim, right?
As I said before I think Susan Ley was the right choice to lead during a rebuild as a more moderate but I cant see her making much impression on the Aus public or providing Albo with any serious opposition and I think she is only warming the chair for others like Tehan and Wilson to throw their hat in the ring.
I think Taylor paid for his insipid performance as opposition Treasurer and avoiding him as leader was one of the few things the LP have got right in the last month...

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 13, 2025, 04:43:20 pm

Chalmers is a good Politician, presents well, speaks well until asked a technical question about economics where he does a good obscuring his gaps in knowledge as you suggested  by waffling about Labour Policy and Liberal failings. I listen to a podcast called the money cafe and he came across clueless on a range of issues, I can understand why Albanese has promoted Mulino as assistant Treasurer because he does know what he is talking about and id expect to see more of him doing interviews and handling people such as Sarah Ferguson on the ABC who seems to enjoy taking down JC.
Snake" Chalmers" has come out today and said he needs two more terms to fix the economy???....6-9 years.....your kidding Jim, right?
As I said before I think Susan Ley was the right choice to lead during a rebuild as a more moderate but I cant see her making much impression on the Aus public or providing Albo with any serious opposition and I think she is only warming the chair for others like Tehan and Wilson to throw their hat in the ring.
I think Taylor paid for his insipid performance as opposition Treasurer and avoiding him as leader was one of the few things the LP have got right in the last month...

I thought Chalmers was their best performer. Clear, concise and good in his role as Treasurer. Likely the leader after Albo. Alot of pollies don't fully understand economics 100%, that's why they have Treasury advice.

Quote from: laj – on May 13, 2025, 04:49:20 pm

I thought Chalmers was their best performer. Clear, concise and good in his role as Treasurer. Likely the leader after Albo. Alot of pollies don't fully understand economics 100%, that's why they have Treasury advice.

I think Chalmers is a good salesman unlike Taylor who couldnt sell a bone to a dog.....I reckon Albo will go another term after this one, given what he has to beat I reckon he would fancy his chances of becoming a 3peat PM.

Ley is an experienced politician. She's worked across a number of ministerial portfolios.
She's also been able to comeback from a political 'scandal' over travel expenses and was elected as deputy leader, so if nothing else she has some political nous and clout...and obviously knows how to work a room.
On the negative side she has flip flopped on a number of issues which suggests she will go with the best political option rather than her convictions.

The problem for her is almost half her party voted against her.
Now the next few months will tell a story.
She will either grow in the job, or the termites will start their work and gradually eat away at any authority.

Quote from: Lods – on May 13, 2025, 05:29:02 pm

Ley is an experienced politician. She's worked across a number of ministerial portfolios.
She's also been able to comeback from a political 'scandal' over travel expenses and was elected as deputy leader, so if nothing else she has some political nous and clout...and obviously knows how to work a room.
On the negative side she has flip flopped on a number of issues which suggests she will go with the best political option rather than her convictions.

The problem for her is almost half her party voted against her.
Now the next few months will tell a story.
She will either grow in the job, or the termites will start their work and gradually eat away at any authority.

I wasn't aware she was born in Nigeria to UK parents and spent many years int he UK.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 13, 2025, 05:48:13 pm

I wasn't aware she was born in Nigeria to UK parents and spent many years int he UK.

Wonder if she renounced her UK citizenship and that her Aussie citizenship is in order? 😇

Quote from: cookie2 – on May 13, 2025, 05:50:56 pm

Wonder if she renounced her UK citizenship and that her Aussie citizenship is in order? 😇

I think that the current crop of pollies have had their citizenship status checked and re-checked by their party, by the other mob and folk with an axe to grind.

Still, some of the vetting leaves a bit to be desired.  A few days before the election it was revealed that a Liberal candidate had previously been a member of the ALP and the Greens.  While there’s really nothing wrong with that, the Libs’ vetting process should have picked it up so they could get on the front foot.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 13, 2025, 05:48:13 pm

I wasn't aware she was born in Nigeria to UK parents and spent many years int he UK.

Wonder if she renounced her UK citizenship and that her Aussie citizenship is in order? 😇

Quote from: DJC – on May 13, 2025, 06:00:11 pm

I think that the current crop of pollies have had their citizenship status checked and re-checked by their party, by the other mob and folk with an axe to grind.

Still, some of the vetting leaves a bit to be desired.  A few days before the election it was revealed that a Liberal candidate had previously been a member of the ALP and the Greens.  While there’s really nothing wrong with that, the Libs’ vetting process should have picked it up so they could get on the front foot.

It's almost like this person is so desperately trying to make it in politics they have no political affiliation.

Wonder why, its probably the gravy train of being an elected MP and a base salary of $205,798 per annum thats the driving motivation. 

Why wouldn't you though?

https://www.finance.gov.au/government/superannuation/parliamentary-contributory-superannuation-scheme#:~:text=The%20minimum%20pension%20rate%20is,benefits%20payable%20under%20the%20scheme.

Remember the pension is means tested, but i suspect this one isn't...

It's only fair they only have to.serve 3 terms as a sitting member of parliament.  12 years....

True enough 3 Leos. However, many folks once getting into six figure salaries -- and of course, 7 figure salaries -- are no longer working 38 or so hours per week. They're owned by their job and often find themselves working 7 days per week, and 12-16 hr days are not uncommon. One of the chief reasons this little black duck got out of the corporate -- same for pollies -- sector... my first marriage was a casualty - never home! Those who chase huge salaries may very well get it... but they'll eventually pay for it.

Quote from: Baggers – on May 14, 2025, 10:35:36 am

True enough 3 Leos. However, many folks once getting into six figure salaries -- and of course, 7 figure salaries -- are no longer working 38 or so hours per week. They're owned by their job and often find themselves working 7 days per week, and 12-16 hr days are not uncommon. One of the chief reasons this little black duck got out of the corporate -- same for pollies -- sector... my first marriage was a casualty - never home! Those who chase huge salaries may very well get it... but they'll eventually pay for it.

The public have no idea of the price paid by career politicians, the public only see the gravy, the media only report the gravy.

Most people, nearly all people, could not handle it, it's 24/7.