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If the Saints pay 1.7m for TDK, they have rocks in their head.  The ruck position is one of the few where they don't have a glaring weakness.

Who is the best direct comparison for TDK in terms of seeing past performance?

Well, we saw probably Buddy go in an equivalent deal.  Did he help the swans?  They were there or there abouts.  They went hard for him, got their man and its an all or nothing manoever.  Meanwhile the Hawks let buddy go and got better.   The thing thats intangible there, is that they got the Adelaide bloke at the same time which may have caused more grief than Buddy in isolation.

Its hard to compare.

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Quote from: Thryleon – on May 13, 2025, 09:55:59 am

Who is the best direct comparison for TDK in terms of seeing past performance?

Well, we saw probably Buddy go in an equivalent deal.  Did he help the swans?  They were there or there abouts.  They went hard for him, got their man and its an all or nothing manoever.  Meanwhile the Hawks let buddy go and got better.   The thing thats intangible there, is that they got the Adelaide bloke at the same time which may have caused more grief than Buddy in isolation.

Its hard to compare.

Buddy's deal was huge at the time ... and many consider him on a par with Leigh Matthews as Hawthorn's best ever players.

If the $$$ suggested by the media are correct, St Kilda isn't offering overs for an elite player, but I'm not sure that Tom is an elite player ... at this stage.

From what we saw on Friday night, Tom doesn't address any of St Kilda's deficiencies and they would seem to be better off spending their war chest on a key forward and midfielder.

Lot of rumours swirling around Buddy when he left, I believe the AFL were livid when he went to the Swans not GWS.  I doubt TdK comes with any baggage.

Quote from: Professer E – on May 13, 2025, 10:07:51 am

Lot of rumours swirling around Buddy when he left, I believe the AFL were livid when he went to the Swans not GWS.  I doubt TdK comes with any baggage.

Buddy deal was done 12 months prior to him leaving Hawthorn.....Judd deal was also done very early, I wonder if TDK has done something similar and we are just seeing a bit of free agent theatre until seasons end.

Glad we found a way to tough it out instead of folding. Against Saints and Ross was extra satisfying.

Leaders led. Runners kept running. Big fwds and an unlikely big defender, got it through the big sticks. Our youngsters showed they've got something. Our flexible guys flexed. The coach outcoached the old cockroach.

Only one game but we won a different way. A way that shows we have ticker. A long way to go for sure but a great one to put down to experience.

Quote from: LoveNavy – on May 13, 2025, 10:55:51 pm

Glad we found a way to tough it out instead of folding. Against Saints and Ross was extra satisfying.

Leaders led. Runners kept running. Big fwds and an unlikely big defender, got it through the big sticks. Our youngsters showed they've got something. Our flexible guys flexed. The coach outcoached the old cockroach.

Only one game but we won a different way. A way that shows we have ticker. A long way to go for sure but a great one to put down to experience.

Yep, sure was great (and a little bit painful - 3rd qtr) to watch. And see the lads see off the Aints... at last!

Wet blanket time. However, Ross, in his stubbornness, actually helped us win by making the game, especially in the 3rd qtr, a rolling, rugby like scrum, giving us time -- as Vossy pointed out -- to rest and reassess. Most opposition coaches would have taken advantage of our reduced rotations and sped up the game.

I've watched our final qtr again. Gee there were some impressive individual efforts helping to get us over the line: Crippa, Motlop, White, backline boys, Cooper and of course, H.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 13, 2025, 06:14:34 pm

Buddy deal was done 12 months prior to him leaving Hawthorn.....Judd deal was also done very early, I wonder if TDK has done something similar and we are just seeing a bit of free agent theatre until seasons end.

I have had the feeling for a while that his decision is made. What's the benefit of waiting until the end of the year? It's harder on him with all the speculation than to announce it now (ie re-signing). He knows the offer, he knows his role at Carlton, he knows his team mates and the club intimately, It is for these reasons that I think he will leave.
It was interesting to read Motlop's interview in the HS (indigenous jumper and Sir Doug Nicholls Round launch). He talked about wanting to be a one Club player and wants to stay at Carlton. He said how he lives with Jack Carroll who has given him an insight into StK, it infers that has reinforced his desire to stay at Carlton. For Tom I guess the 1.7M reasons would trump a crap coach, crap environment and crap culture.