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Reply #75 –
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Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #76 –
The USA hard right want Hanson, are they indirectly funding campaigns? What churches or societal groups does One nation get cash from besides China backed miners? It would be a bit hypocritical for a bunch who will claim election tampering when they eventually lose back home!

Hanson falls in with US Hard Right Christian Fundamentalist ideology, time for a new crusade, bring on the rapture, slaughter the heathen hoard, etc., etc.. Her racist undertones fit right in! Remember, they are just Zionists once removed! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #77 –
I'm voting One Nation.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #78 –
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I'm voting One Nation.
As you are free to do in a democracy.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #79 –
It has been reported that Israel has told the USA that it is running dangerously low on anti-ballistic missile munitions.

That's despite Taco claiming that Iran is "essentially defeated".

Taco stated that he made the decision to attack Iran "based on what Steve [Witkoff] and Jared [Kushner], and Pete [Hegseth] and others were telling me ... Marco [Rubio] so involved, and that I thought they were going to attack us."

Apart from Iran not having the capacity to attack the USA, what makes Witkoff, Kushner, Hegseth and Rubio experts on military strategy and threat assessments?  It now seems clear that JD Vance advised against attacking Iran, as did the Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dan Caine.

And then there's Chris Wright, the Administration's Energy Secretary, who announced that he was not concerned that the war might disrupt oil supplies in the Middle East and wreak havoc in energy markets.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #80 –
The asymmetry of modern warfare is a big deal, any country can knock up dozens or even hundreds of drones a day, in fact Australia has been a leader in this teaching Ukraine to manufacture cardboard drones that are virtually radar invisible and can be built for a few dollars each while delivering astounding lethality. All the fancy design and sleek carbon fibre lines are actually a hinderance.

In the meantime active defence systems are complicated and need calibration and tuning to be effective, if operated without calibration the defences become like deploying fly swatters versus a swarming hive.

Phalanx and such systems even need calibrated munitions to perform effectively, you just can't make enough of the good munitions fast enough to sustain long term battles, so they put troops on the ground.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #81 –
It’s interesting that we supplied AMRAAMs to UAE along with the Wedgetail electronic warfare aircraft.

An AMRAAM costs $2.4M, a Shahed drone costs $20K.  That’s asymmetrical warfare.

Ukraine is leading the world in countering the Shahed drone threat with effective and relatively cheap weapons systems, including the Australian Slinger and Droneshield systems.

The USA expressed an interest in our Wedgetail but decided that their satellite system was better; it’s not!  Similarly, the USA determined that their high tech, expensive anti-aircraft missiles were the best anti-drone weapons; they’re not!
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #83 –
Let’s keep this thread to Iran and the Middle East.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #84 –
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Let’s keep this thread to Iran and the Middle East.

It’s EB’s fault, I was referring to the excursion monger…
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #85 –
There’s clearly some crossover with the Taco thread; who else would sell merchandise from the recent dignified transfer of war dead?

Then there’s the wearing of the campaign baseball cap when civilians are supposed to be bare headed and the salute that only military personnel may make.  Stolen valour and grifting!

Perhaps we could change Thry’s clever thread title to “I ran so far away from the Epstein files” but the seagulls are already flocking with evil intent outside the local takeaway 🙄
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #86 –
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The USA expressed an interest in our Wedgetail but decided that their satellite system was better; it’s not!  Similarly, the USA determined that their high tech, expensive anti-aircraft missiles were the best anti-drone weapons; they’re not!
Actually, I think they have now ordered Wedgetail, but it's being called something else to try and put an American brand on it. The story is complicated, for example software was chucked away because it wasn't complaint to the US Military standard, but the software rights were sold to a US Developer only to be reloaded as complaint. How sticky are those fingers?

FWIW, I've just been to a bunch of manufacturing and technology conferences, to avoid Taco's tariffs nearly every foreign invention is being rebranded as American and they are setting up shell companies to commercialise the inventions on US territory. I sat through one talk that was a rehash of 20 year old technology, invented and developed here under investment from among others the US Air Force. Up until now it's been implemented pretty much everywhere except the US because the nepotism in the GOP and US government. Now the very same people who blocked the import have joined the consortium, and rebranded the technology as Texan to manufacturing(assemble) it over there.

It reminds me of the old trans-shipping days, when companies would move goods across borders, repack and then re-export to avoid tariffs. I bet that is all coming back because as far as I know it was never made illegal, back then it became uneconomical when free trade was set in place.

Think about some of that, in the context or the Iran war, who is fighting who, and where the oil that keeps flowing is really coming from, trans-shipped of course! Isn't this illegal when it's money? :o Don't they have a name for it, "cleaned oil"! ;D

People in terms of the west's general public can be so gullible, shareholders corporate or oligarch, in Israel and the USA, keep taking dividends, the GOP might as well write Iran a cheque it would be cheaper than wasting expensive weapons!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

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Reply #87 –
The USAF E-7 Wedgetail program was initiated by the Biden administration but was blocked by Hegseth who, apart from opposing anything the previous administration supported, wants to go down the unproven and costly satellite route.  However, Congress has written two Wedgetail prototypes into the US defence budget and their construction is under contract (and they're sticking with Wedgetail).

Congress is insisting that the two prototypes be delivered but Hegseth and Air Force Secretary Troy Meink are adamant that will be the end of the program.

One of the reasons that the Wedgetail was chosen by the Biden administration is that its systems are purposely compatible with US weapons systems employed by RAAF aircraft including the EA-18G Growlers, F-35A Lightnings, and FA-18F Super Hornets, as well as the RAN's USN-based weapons systems and the Army's systems fitted to the US-made Abrams and HIMARS and locally manufactured IFVs, SPGs, etc.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball