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Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #30 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Unless he quits because he thinks he's lost the players?
If last night isn't evidence of a coach having lost the players I don't know what is. His presser suggested he isn't giving up, Vossy is proud man and is not a quitter but I wouldn't hold a grudge if he walked away from this train wreck of a team. I cant see us winning another game for the rest of the season, the players are mentally toasted and whatever the coaches are telling them is not getting through, they make poor decisions and they aren't executing correctly. They looked like deers in the headlights and it got worse with every minute and every passage of play. Dunno if it was me but Vossy seemed to get a bit emotional when answering a question about Charlie's performance. He seemed to have teary eyes as he was giving his answer, dunno what that was about. I feel extremely sad and sorry for Vossy right now.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Where do we go from here.

Reply #31 –
Both Weitering and Cripps came out before the game last night and said the current situation was on the players. That it was up to them to turn it around.

It certainly didn't help that neither of them should have been playing.
But that card has now been played (not for the first time).
It will seem hollow if played again.

We can speculate about injury and illness...was Cripps the only sickie?
We'll probably never know.
And folks will believe what they want to believe especially in a 'feeding frenzy' that's likely to take place this week.

One of the most disturbing sights of the night was Voss frantically trying to work the magnetic board while the game went on. It was pretty obvious at that stage that any plans for the night had gone up in smoke.

Fans are pretty divided.
The club has been vandalised this morning "Sack the Board, Lloyd and Austin-Keep Voss" , TDK -yes or no.

https://www.3aw.com.au/sack-the-board-carlton-training-ground-defaced-by-angry-blues-supporters/

Passions are high
The club is divided over a number of personnel.
Where do we go from here?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #32 –
As bad as we were, you have to give credit to Port. They were on from the get go.

Just a perfect storm type of game. All our problems and bad qualities come to the fore in one game : bad kicking for goal, injuries, lack of depth, poor field kicking and general disposal, lack of foot speed. You know it's been a bad game when you don't hear any complaints about the umpiring.

We will find out once and for all whether the new Cook/Wright regime is made of the right stuff, or if they are same old same old. If they sack Voss, they have no business complaining about the players being unable or unwilling to handle heat and pressure, because they themselves will be guilty of exactly the same. Time to put on your big boy pants gents, and stop bailing out at the first sign of trouble

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #33 –
And Ill add one other thing, if I was the captain last night and if I were truly behind the coach, I would have grabbed Curnow, Weitering and maybe Docherty and attended the presser with Vossy and when needed stepped in with "Ill answer that one...".
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #34 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
As bad as we were, you have to give credit to Port. They were on from the get go.

Just a perfect storm type of game. All our problems and bad qualities come to the fore in one game : bad kicking for goal, injuries, lack of depth, poor field kicking and general disposal, lack of foot speed. You know it's been a bad game when you don't hear any complaints about the umpiring.

We will find out once and for all whether the new Cook/Wright regime is made of the right stuff, or if they are same old same old. If they sack Voss, they have no business complaining about the players being unable or unwilling to handle heat and pressure, because they themselves will be guilty of exactly the same. Time to put on your big boy pants gents, and stop bailing out at the first sign of trouble
I agree but it will take a miracle for them not to act. Its not the first sign of trouble IMO.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #35 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I agree but it will take a miracle for them not to act. It’s not the first sign of trouble IMO.

IMO, we need to break this cycle which has only produced minor improvements, and we may as well start with the coach that has given us our best results in 20 years, and a certain amount of success, albeit rather modest.

I would defy anyone to make a compelling case for why Horse or Simpson or anyone else will have more success, why the players won’t “switch off” after a couple of years with them etc. They won’t be able to, because a case doesn’t exist, unless of course your strategy is “we have to try something “, which isn’t actually a strategy.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #36 –
One player who did seem to be going OK, at least trying hard, was Zac Williams when he went into the mid-field.
(He's always wanted to be a mid-fielder) :D
The fact that he was there at all probably speaks to mid-field availability.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #37 –
We were never going to win, not sure what the hysteria is about.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #38 –
It's probably the insipid way we lost.
I'm not sure anybody expected that.
 

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #39 –
10 mins into the first quarter we knew we weren't on.

After all the talk, the way the match started was an indictment on the players.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #40 –
Quote from: Lods – on
It's probably the insipid way we lost.
I'm not sure anybody expected that.


It went exactly how I expected.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #41 –
Same Iaj.
I don't want to sack another coach but I don't see how Voss can survive.
And we have zero draft picks and the tigers expect to steal Cody.
We're looking at another 15 of crap.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #42 –
We have the last two premiers over the next fortnight, who are currently sitting 1 and 2 on the ladder.  

After that, we'll know whether there is even a spark left.

Can't believe how brittle we have become this year.  One thing to target when recruiting is to target some players with a bit of backbone.   We have too many invertebrates in our team.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #43 –
Forgot to add Elijah and Cotters to the players out earlier.

Remember last year mid way we were making some strange sub choices, had Hewitt as sub in a game that then things turned crape? Maybe this rot started then? Seemed bewildering at the time.

Flick out the guy that won best clubman, a promising young ruckman rumoured to be leading, broken bodies everywhere, a skipper that cannot do it on his own anymore and well, here we are.

Not seeing the game last night - who didn’t put in that could’ve? Ie Cripps sick, Weiters and acres carrying injury…

Are you guys saying all other players didn’t do enough? So Doch, Williams, Fog, Acres, Hewitt, etc etc?

Really feeling for the kids that debuted last night - seeing the vids of their families so excited for them, what a crap game for them.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #44 –
People vandalising the club are absolute garbage.