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Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #75 –
I thought the first fifteen minutes showed the difference in quality between the two sides, after that Collingwood were just better at executing their game plan and Carlton implemented their senior game plan of being witches hats, kicking appallingly, making poor decisions, not having a Plan B, switching off and generally running around like headless chooks. We won because we didn't give up, something the seniors can learn from, and because we were actually a better side than Collingwood, even after losing Young, though we may not necessarily have been a better team.
I would be playing Luke Camporeale, Lemmey and Binns in the seniors and I would have been playing L.Young as well.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #76 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: laj – on
He looked great in there. So many clearances.

Question is, the way things are, does he want to play in the seniors....hahaha.
Deserves a game but needs to handball more as his kicking is very ordinary, his brother played ok down back and seems a better kick as well.. Id be playing Lemmey too, he did some nice things and looks composed, Charlie can be his decoy🤐
Thought the.Campo boys were much better with the ball tonight.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #77 –
Not sure exactly how much time Flynn Young spent on the ground...didn't notice him at all in the last quarter.
I suspect it was a managed situation after limited game time last night.
But he didn't really impact much at all and it may have been better for him not to play.

Riley's a favourite of mine...despite his limited appearances.
Reminds me a bit of Matty Kreuzer in some respects...but still a long way to go.
I liked the way a couple of times he took the ball from the ruck contest and quickly dished it off.
Lemmey took a bit of the ruck, but it was basically Riley most of the night against two rucks
He looked a bit spent chasing Cox on the lead late in the game so he no doubt gave it his best shot and worked hard most of the night.
If TDK goes it wouldn't hurt to try and get Riley on the list.


Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #78 –
Quote from: laj – on
DBG could have stood up. Got plenty but that last qtr goalkicking....ouch. Could have been costly.

Should probably have kicked 5...all were gettable.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #79 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: laj – on
DBG could have stood up. Got plenty but that last qtr goalkicking....ouch. Could have been costly.

Should probably have kicked 5...all were gettable.
Especially the one he missed from 2m out
*facepalm*
Lucky it didn't cost us the game!

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #80 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Deserves a game but needs to handball more as his kicking is very ordinary, his brother played ok down back and seems a better kick as well.. Id be playing Lemmey too, he did some nice things and looks composed, Charlie can be his decoy🤐
Thought the.Campo boys were much better with the ball tonight.
I think it was Lucas who did a couple of nice defensive acts, busted a gut to get to and create a contest to effect a spoil. Did it two or three times if I recall correctly.
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Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #81 –
Vfl blues have won 6 of their last 8.

Fair effort considering our seniors get games.... :p

In all honesty I'm more interested in breeding a system based winning culture at this level. 
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Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #82 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Vfl blues have won 6 of their last 8.

Fair effort considering our seniors get games.... :p

In all honesty I'm more interested in breeding a system based winning culture at this level. 

What impressed me most was that the game wasnt going their way, they corrected their bad play and they fought tooth and nail for eek out a win. Hope the goats who played on Friday night were watching.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #83 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Vfl blues have won 6 of their last 8.

Fair effort considering our seniors get games.... :p

In all honesty I'm more interested in breeding a system based winning culture at this level. 


There's some eligibility rules around finals for AFL listed players.
We currently sit just inside the Top 10
There are probably a few players a game or two shy of meeting that eligibility list. (Need to play a few more VFL games).

What's best for the club and player development long term...
Get these players into and playing VFL finals with a group on a positive run.
or
Give them a taste and a few games at senior level in a somewhat dysfunctional environment.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #84 –
Binns and Lucas dominated the outside - Ben dominated the inside.

Outside domination is very rare for us. Maybe time to give Acres a spell to find form.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #85 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Vfl blues have won 6 of their last 8.

Fair effort considering our seniors get games.... :p

In all honesty I'm more interested in breeding a system based winning culture at this level. 

What impressed me most was that the game wasnt going their way, they corrected their bad play and they fought tooth and nail for eek out a win. Hope the goats who played on Friday night were watching.

Yep.

What I found fascinating, and depressing, was the difference in 'spirit' between the Magoos and seniors. Poles apart.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #86 –
Interesting point from the interview with Power at one of the quarter time breaks.
He touched on the backing-up of Young after being a sub the previous night and on other occasions where the needs of the senior team took precedence over the VFL side.
Examples-resting O'Farrell last week and Cincotta last night to be ready for next week after a short break.

It's all part of the total process but VFL wins are clearly secondary to the needs of the AFL team (as it should be) and Power should be cut a bit of slack for any results given his side gets turned upside down on a weekly basis.
Any injuries to any player on the senior list has an impact on the VFL side.
Positional experiments decreed from above also limit his options.
He's doing pretty well.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #87 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Interesting point from the interview with Power at one of the quarter time breaks.
He touched on the backing-up of Young after being a sub the previous night and on other occasions where the needs of the senior team took precedence over the VFL side.
Examples-resting O'Farrell last week and Cincotta last night to be ready for next week after a short break.

It's all part of the total process but VFL wins are clearly secondary to the needs of the AFL team (as it should be) and Power should be cut a bit of slack for any results given his side gets turned upside down on a weekly basis.
Any injuries to any player on the senior list has an impact on the VFL side.
Positional experiments decreed from above also limit his options.
He's doing pretty well.

One thing that shouldn't be overlooked in that, is that he must have a system/game plan in place that doesn't matter about the cattle he has out there. Eg, he can't build around a certain player, because that play might be called up to the 1's.
He needs a plug and play style that works regardless of who is in the team.

That sounds VERY attractive for our senior side given our overreliance on certain players....who are underperforming.

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #88 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What impressed me most was that the game wasnt going their way, they corrected their bad play and they fought tooth and nail for eek out a win. Hope the goats who played on Friday night were watching.

Yep.

What I found fascinating, and depressing, was the difference in 'spirit' between the Magoos and seniors. Poles apart.
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2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: VFL Rd 15 2025 Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #89 –
I don't mean to be offensive, but how in God's name did Denver Grainger-Barras get selected so high? I can't say that I've seen much of him before, but he reminded me more of Monahan last season, or Duffy this season. He doesn't look smooth, he's awkward and doesn't run to the right spots ...
Granted that he was useful last night, but ...

I think he has done his dash as a defender. Do we persevere with him as a forward? He ended up getting enough ball to be dangerous and he does leap well (although he doesn't always get close to it). His kicking ... his kicking reminded more of Percy Jones, to be honest.
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