Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: DJC – on August 30, 2025, 12:49:04 am

Teams can underspend 5% of their TPP and carry it forward.  Is there any evidence that St Kilda had an underspend this season?  We’ll find out early next year.

Regardless of whether they do have savings, and whether TDK, will get an extra $200K next season, they still have to pay close to $4M to two players in 2027.  That’s more than 20% of their TPP on two players.  Even if most of their players were on the minimum, that’s going to be a challenge.

I understand how much they are paying in the future, but you need to look at the now and the past first.

We have cripps Charlie harry weiters....some might throw in McGovern, Saad, Williams and cerra.....and then you have tdk. All on huge money to varying degrees.

Do the same thing with the saints. I doubt you'll come up with half that list and even then, it's not to the same extent.
Who are they paying....Marshall? Hill??
Anyone else??

They wouldve been front loading and banking for a few years now. All planning towards this moment.

We saw it with sos while he was with us. Year on year we were throwing cash around. We never could get the players to commit though. He's solved that problem.

Quote from: kruddler – on August 30, 2025, 07:16:48 am

I understand how much they are paying in the future, but you need to look at the now and the past first.

We have cripps Charlie harry weiters....some might throw in McGovern, Saad, Williams and cerra.....and then you have tdk. All on huge money to varying degrees.

Do the same thing with the saints. I doubt you'll come up with half that list and even then, it's not to the same extent.
Who are they paying....Marshall? Hill??
Anyone else??

They wouldve been front loading and banking for a few years now. All planning towards this moment.

We saw it with sos while he was with us. Year on year we were throwing cash around. We never could get the players to commit though. He's solved that problem.

That's all well and good but clubs must spend at least 95% of their TPP.  If the Saints had an underspend this year. they must still have forked out at least $16.8M.  Next season's TPP is rolled in with an increase of the soft cap but it's set at $18.4M for 2027 so, split the difference and go with $18M. That goes up to $18.9M if they did have a 5% underspend.  With Nas and TDK raking in at least $3.8M, they've only got $15.1M to pay the other 40 odd players.  Take out $800K for Leek Aleer and possibly another $800K for Silvagni, and that drops their available budget to $13.5M.  That's around $350K each and Steele, Hill, King, Sinclair, Wilkie and Marshall all get considerably more than that.  Haircuts and frontloading doesn't get you from $16.8M down to $15.1M or lower and they will be pushing players out the door.

I'm not saying that they can't afford to pay players next season but it's not sustainable and they won't be able retain their young talent.

Quote from: DJC – on August 30, 2025, 05:11:10 pm

That's all well and good but clubs must spend at least 95% of their TPP.  If the Saints had an underspend this year. they must still have forked out at least $16.8M.  Next season's TPP is rolled in with an increase of the soft cap but it's set at $18.4M for 2027 so, split the difference and go with $18M. That goes up to $18.9M if they did have a 5% underspend.  With Nas and TDK raking in at least $3.8M, they've only got $15.1M to pay the other 40 odd players.  Take out $800K for Leek Aleer and possibly another $800K for Silvagni, and that drops their available budget to $13.5M.  That's around $350K each and Steele, Hill, King, Sinclair, Wilkie and Marshall all get considerably more than that.  Haircuts and frontloading doesn't get you from $16.8M down to $15.1M or lower and they will be pushing players out the door.

I'm not saying that they can't afford to pay players next season but it's not sustainable and they won't be able retain their young talent.

By my maths, when you take away 5.45M from the TPP for TDK (1.85M), NWM (2M), SOS(0.8M) and Alir (0.8M), , it leaves an average of around 300K for the other 41 players. Enjoy the carnage Saints.

Quote from: kruddler – on August 30, 2025, 07:16:48 am

I understand how much they are paying in the future, but you need to look at the now and the past first.

We have cripps Charlie harry weiters....some might throw in McGovern, Saad, Williams and cerra.....and then you have tdk. All on huge money to varying degrees.

Do the same thing with the saints. I doubt you'll come up with half that list and even then, it's not to the same extent.
Who are they paying....Marshall? Hill??
Anyone else??

They wouldve been front loading and banking for a few years now. All planning towards this moment.

We saw it with sos while he was with us. Year on year we were throwing cash around. We never could get the players to commit though. He's solved that problem.

That's all well and good but clubs must spend at least 95% of their TPP.  If the Saints had an underspend this year. they must still have forked out at least $16.8M.  Next season's TPP is rolled in with an increase of the soft cap but it's set at $18.4M for 2027 so, split the difference and go with $18M. That goes up to $18.9M if they did have a 5% underspend.  With Nas and TDK raking in at least $3.8M, they've only got $15.1M to pay the other 40 odd players.  Take out $800K for Leek Aleer and possibly another $800K for Silvagni, and that drops their available budget to $13.5M.  That's around $350K each and Steele, Hill, King, Sinclair, Wilkie and Marshall all get considerably more than that.  Haircuts and frontloading doesn't get you from $16.8M down to $15.1M or lower and they will be pushing players out the door.

I'm not saying that they can't afford to pay players next season but it's not sustainable and they won't be able retain their young talent.