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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #165 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-set-for-world-first-cervical-cancer-elim

There’s a few reports around that Australia is on track to eliminate cervical cancer by 2035. Hopefully we can achieve this target. 2021 was a particularly good year, with zero cases diagnosed. It’s one of the most common cancers in women, so a super effort from all concerned.

The linked article is a bit of a plug for GP’s, but it does contain the important facts.
I like that we are on track.

2021's lack of diagnosis is more likely to be due to the covid virus reactions and our ongoing issues with lock down.

Conspiracy theorist or not, its a fact that people just weren't keeping up with those routine checks and appointments.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #166 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
This in how unsafe Victoria has become: 
For the year ending June 2025, according to the Crime Statistics Agency(https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/) , there were:

18,482 serious assaults - a 16 per cent increase
7,856 residential aggravated burglaries - a 22 per cent increase
3,828 robberies - a 17 per cent increase
33,018 motor vehicle theft - a 42 per cent increase
86,351 steal from a motor vehicle - a 39 per cent increase
41,667 steal from a retail store - a 28 per cent increase
11,075 prohibited and controlled weapon offences - a 12 per cent increase.
9,663 family violence related serious assaults - a 23% per cent increase.

You add in all the graffiti, unoccupied run down buildings full of squatters, needles everywhere you walk, increases in ambulance staff and nurses getting attacked on the job, drones landing in family members backyards with white packs of powder on board, kids getting murdered on the way home from a basketball game.
The you have the Victorian Government actually cutting funding for Youth Crime Prevention programs and the Youth Support and Advocacy Service (YSAS).
Debt in Victoria continues to grow faster than both the economy and revenue, with government sector gross debt nearing 30 per cent of the state’s economy. Credit rating has gone backwards and the auditor-general said gross debt was forecast to grow to $240 billion by 2028-29, about 202 per cent of operating revenue.
Crime is on the rise and so is the expenditure for victims of crime...Liabilities from redress schemes, and financial assistance for victims of crime grew from $30 million five years ago to $853 million.
Anyone living in Victoria should be concerned where the State is heading....future is bleak and the Crims are winning with the amount of unsolved crimes also increasing.




Does this confirm Pauls link is fake news?

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #167 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
This in how unsafe Victoria has become: 
For the year ending June 2025, according to the Crime Statistics Agency(https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/) , there were:

18,482 serious assaults - a 16 per cent increase
7,856 residential aggravated burglaries - a 22 per cent increase
3,828 robberies - a 17 per cent increase
33,018 motor vehicle theft - a 42 per cent increase
86,351 steal from a motor vehicle - a 39 per cent increase
41,667 steal from a retail store - a 28 per cent increase
11,075 prohibited and controlled weapon offences - a 12 per cent increase.
9,663 family violence related serious assaults - a 23% per cent increase.

You add in all the graffiti, unoccupied run down buildings full of squatters, needles everywhere you walk, increases in ambulance staff and nurses getting attacked on the job, drones landing in family members backyards with white packs of powder on board, kids getting murdered on the way home from a basketball game.
The you have the Victorian Government actually cutting funding for Youth Crime Prevention programs and the Youth Support and Advocacy Service (YSAS).
Debt in Victoria continues to grow faster than both the economy and revenue, with government sector gross debt nearing 30 per cent of the state’s economy. Credit rating has gone backwards and the auditor-general said gross debt was forecast to grow to $240 billion by 2028-29, about 202 per cent of operating revenue.
Crime is on the rise and so is the expenditure for victims of crime...Liabilities from redress schemes, and financial assistance for victims of crime grew from $30 million five years ago to $853 million.
Anyone living in Victoria should be concerned where the State is heading....future is bleak and the Crims are winning with the amount of unsolved crimes also increasing.


Overreaction EB, Jacinta says everything is fine. I'd love to debate this with you but have to tend to the pink elephant that flew passed my window. Then I need to get the chimney ready for Santa in 26 days.
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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #168 –
I heard that radical Steve Price on the wireless a couple of days ago.  His prediction for the next State Election; comfortable win for Labor.

Something’s not adding up.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball
 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #169 –
Once again the inevitable happens thanks to our weak as piss namby pamby in denial governments. When asked a pointed question by a report last night, Albo fill his shorts. Pathetic.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #170 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I'm safely assuming we can all agree that there has never been and never will be a zero crime rate, anywhere on earth, which means we must all accept some level of crime. The issue then becomes one of perceptions and personal boundaries : is there is difference between "feeling" safe and "being" safe ? What crime rate would constitute the government having crime "under control" and conversely at what point is crime "out of control" ? Etc.
My problem here is that you would think it should be fairly black and white regarding the statistics, courts, police and auditors (Public and private) should be largely in agreement at least in the trending of data.

Yet that doesn't seem to be the case, which makes it very hard to perform an authentic assessment. There are so many contradictory sources, too many, both official and pseudo-official, that you can just pick and choose the version that suits your personal narrative on pretty much any issue.

What's the motive for this contradictory analysis behaviour, farming distrust seems to be a big driver, which just further clouds the issue.

When entities like the media can publish false claims without consequence, and harvest large profits while doing so, the situation will never change. I wouldn't stop them, I'd let them speak, but I have a big stick available for when they found to be deceptive.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #171 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Once again the inevitable happens thanks to our weak as piss namby pamby in denial governments. When asked a pointed question by a report last night, Albo fill his shorts. Pathetic.

I havent been following.  Whats happened now?

Was it in relation to the Bondi thing?

I think we need to treat those situations a little differently.  Activism, violence, and potential co-ordination between extremists groups.  Hard to pin this on a local government for anything here.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #172 –
Horrendous events.

Every action has a reaction, no matter where or when it occurs, if people are outraged, they should be equally outraged at the likes of Netanyahu and Trump for stoking of the fires, mostly for their own political and financial gain.

I have a former associate, a young career physicist, who after cutbacks at CERN found employment in the EU as a weapons inspector. He said the amount of subterfuge and false flag operations that go on from all sides of investigations is extraordinary. But he said he is lucky, because he only has to audit physical resources, he does not have to assess the political or social motives like some of his colleagues the political science analysts, they identify trolls on pretty much every team in high numbers, but they are not permitted to expose them as most hold diplomatic status. Such hypocrisy from all sides.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #173 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Once again the inevitable happens thanks to our weak as piss namby pamby in denial governments. When asked a pointed question by a report last night, Albo fill his shorts. Pathetic.

I havent been following.  Whats happened now?

Was it in relation to the Bondi thing?

I think we need to treat those situations a little differently.  Activism, violence, and potential co-ordination between extremists groups.  Hard to pin this on a local government for anything here.


Governments have been pandering to protesters/activists and allowing a underlying anti semitic tone to develop in the community.
States and the Federal Government have been weak in cracking down on this political unrest between these opposing factions, its got nothing to do with Australian Politics and those pursuing their agendas through terrorism need dealing with more severely and made an example of to deter future attacks. Albanese needs to stop making policy to get re-elected and start protecting the community and make the country secure from these nutcase radicals bringing their politics and problems to Australia.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #174 –
The Bondi massacre appears to be Islamist terrorism ... and the hero who disarmed one of the terrorists is Muslim.

You have to wonder at the warped thinking that enables a father and son to commit such an atrocity.

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #175 –
It's easy to lump the protests against the Israeli genocide in Palestine into the antisemitism basket.  However, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance makes the point that "criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic".  Many of the Jewish callers to the ABC this morning made similar points and said that they would maintain their protests against Israel's actions in Palestine and Lebanon.

That said, It would be refreshing for all Australian governments to ban all protests at least for the duration of the festive season.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #176 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on


I havent been following.  Whats happened now?

Was it in relation to the Bondi thing?

I think we need to treat those situations a little differently.  Activism, violence, and potential co-ordination between extremists groups.  Hard to pin this on a local government for anything here.


Governments have been pandering to protesters/activists and allowing a underlying anti semitic tone to develop in the community.
States and the Federal Government have been weak in cracking down on this political unrest between these opposing factions, its got nothing to do with Australian Politics and those pursuing their agendas through terrorism need dealing with more severely and made an example of to deter future attacks. Albanese needs to stop making policy to get re-elected and start protecting the community and make the country secure from these nutcase radicals bringing their politics and problems to Australia.


You just described the sole function of a politician.  Get elected and stay elected.

I don't condone extremists, but this action of "condoning anti semitism tone and developing" is not a product of anything to do with Australia, but its more about the war in the west bank and the events of the last 500 odd days there, along with the last 2000 years of history (and possibly beyond).

At no step along the way, has Australia condoned any of the anti semitism that has occurred, but the reason why I state Bondi and its events cant be tied to government and anti semitism, is because its not the same game as simply targetting minorities for the sake of a sick and twisted hate crime.  Its a more politically motivated effort with a goal to change a status quo (not that this makes it much better) but what Im trying to articulate, is that this isnt the same as some spray paint on a temple, or hate speech etc.  Its activism.  The sort that sends the message to the nation state that Jews belong to, and that is a non Australian consequence of mixed society.  We will see more of the same as a result. 

Would any government policy change this?  No.  I dont think so.

The label "anti semitism" in this context does it a disservice.  This was not a simple anti Jewish event.  It was a political statement to fuel the continuing middle eastern conflict.  This was not a neo nazi scenario, and any attempt to paint it as such is an over simplification of what is going on.  Likewise it minimises the why behind the action.  Its not just anti Jewish.  You need to review it in context with happenings over in Palestine/Israel and that ongoing conflict.  It also appears to have been co-ordinated with another event.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/12/13/live-storm-byron-passes-misery-remains-in-gaza-after-14-killed


No one deserves to lose their life at a cultural event particularly half a world away.  Its not soley about semitism, or anti semitism in this regard.  This was a political statement that has arrived on our shores vicariously.  It is not the first of its kind, and it wont be the last, and whilst that conflict occurs in the middle east, any discussion of "anti semitism" should be shelved, because its not anti arabian or muslim to label the Palestinians or other nation states in the middle east terrorists or harbingers of doom.  WE need to stop that, because that fuels the same violence.   I put 2 and 2 together instantly last night as soon as the shootings occurred in Bondi and figured, something to do with Channukah makes sense, and immediately thought it would come to light that this was a terrorism event.

It is simply another part of the greater under current of war that is occurring over there. 


This is not to say its ok, nor make it ok.

War is war.  When people stop looking at each conflict in isolation, and tie them back to history and all goings on, it changes the context of every event.  Those conflicts in the middle east are as much a power vaccuum situation after Rome fell, and then the Ottoman empire as any thing else.  All the events are intrinsically linked, and just like the Jews were expelled from Israel thousands of years ago, only to return in the 20th century, simply reignites the old feuds. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #177 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on


I havent been following.  Whats happened now?

Was it in relation to the Bondi thing?

I think we need to treat those situations a little differently.  Activism, violence, and potential co-ordination between extremists groups.  Hard to pin this on a local government for anything here.


Governments have been pandering to protesters/activists and allowing a underlying anti semitic tone to develop in the community.
States and the Federal Government have been weak in cracking down on this political unrest between these opposing factions, its got nothing to do with Australian Politics and those pursuing their agendas through terrorism need dealing with more severely and made an example of to deter future attacks. Albanese needs to stop making policy to get re-elected and start protecting the community and make the country secure from these nutcase radicals bringing their politics and problems to Australia.

Albanese and the like will take the piss weak option of changing gun laws penalising law abiding citizens like me who pose zero threat to anyone. He and all the agency leaders should admit to yet more failures in:
- Identifying people who should not be in the country let alone on the streets.
- Dealing with the organisations in this country who spread and preach hate, who's sole purpose is to nurture and promote animals like the two perpetrators of yesterdays atrocity. The agencies know who they are, where they are and what they are up to and do nothing about it.
They've dropped the ball and they know it. They will back peddle, deflect and bring in bullcrap laws that will make not one iota of difference.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #178 –
Gun laws might need a tweak, but it is the enforcing that appears to be lacking. If laws get ignored or not followed because it is too hard, then things like this will happen.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #179 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Gun laws might need a tweak, but it is the enforcing that appears to be lacking. If laws get ignored or not followed because it is too hard, then things like this will happen.
Laws are being followed by 99.99% of the population. I recently had to take ownership of my brothers firearms because his licence lapsed and he had to go through the whole process as his "grace" period elapsed.
1. The district firearms officer contacted him and advised his to dispose of them that day or else.
2. Within a week of acquiring them, I had the local police contacting me to do a compliance inspection of the storage of all my firearms.
The bloke who committed the murders yesterday probably had his firearms stored legally also. If its not firearms, it's something else. Evil people will always find a means of inflicting carnage on others, it's the evil people you need to focus on getting rid of.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership