Carlton Supporters Club

We'll see how all this Iran business changes things. 

America doing American things.

Good old regime change and freedom.  Without worrying about whos right and wrong how would we all like it if Xi xing ping decided to give us a regime change and some good old Chinese branded structure? 

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One Nation is completely foreign to the Liberal cause, the antithesis of Liberal politics. Hansen sprouts Socialist policies, closer to Communism than Liberal. Socialism and Fascism can be two sides of the same coin.

That certainly got my attention.

The hard reality here is that Wilson has kyboshed the possibility of a One Nation deal, it's not surprising.

It's really the hard right demanding anarchy as a solution to opacity, which as I have already stated is ironic given where the money indirectly comes from for One Nation, which seems to be conveniently ignored by many that shout the loudest.

For example, how do they rationalise rallying against the sale of the Victorian port to China state owned enterprise, while still being One Nation boosters? One Nation a party that is largely funded by primary industry which earns it's cash from the sale of resources to China.

One Nation is completely foreign to the Liberal cause, the antithesis of Liberal politics. Hansen sprouts Socialist policies, closer to Communism than Liberal. Socialism and Fascism can be two sides of the same coin.

Good old-fashioned fascism is creeping into social and political perspectives everywhere.

Maybe we can label it the Global Amnesia Pandemic, or GAP for short! Obviously there has been too long of a gap between the consequences of real global conflict, oppression and hatred as distinct from modern life.

Labor just voted against giving Victorias anti corruption watchdog the powers it needs to investigate the 15B corruption on Vics big build projects.

All while Jacinta defends adamantly with 'they have nothing to hide.'  

The balanced public already know how corrupt this government is yet for those on the fence this again doesn't pass the pub test.

Quote from: shawny – on March 04, 2026, 09:34:32 am

Labor just voted against giving Victorias anti corruption watchdog the powers it needs to investigate the 15B corruption on Vics big build projects.

All while Jacinta defends adamantly with 'they have nothing to hide.'  

The balanced public already know how corrupt this government is yet for those on the fence this again doesn't pass the pub test.

That's not correct!

The Victorian Government introduced an omnibus justice bill in response to the Bondi massacre.  The opposition and cross benches tried to add a half-baked amendment that was intended to increase IBAC's powers.  The Government, as is their right, refused to allow that amendment to be passed.  No Australian government would have allowed that to happen.  It's the elected Government that sets the legislative agenda, not the opposition and cross benches.

A bipartisan parliamentary committee has made recommendations regarding IBAC's power to conduct "follow the money" investigations and the Government must table its response to those recommendations within six months.  That is the appropriate and considered approach to developing legislation.

Meanwhile, VicPol's Taskforce Hawk has laid more than 70 charges against 15 individuals involved in construction industry criminality and the Big Build.

You can certainly question the competence of the Victorian Government but that's not corruption.

Leaving aside the fact that too many people in lay discourse confuse and conflate fascism and authoritarianism, to say nothing of the blurring of lines and lumping together socialism, communism, Marxism, "the left" etc, I'll leave you with this : neither Hanson herself, nor any member of her party, nor any of her supporters, nor any scholar of the left, nor any students of the left, would consider One Nation to be socialist or communist, not in part, and not in whole.

Pat, just take the L and move on. Hanson and One Nation are not Communist or Socialist.

Quote from: PaulP – on Today at 07:00:53 am

Pat, just take the L and move on. Hanson and One Nation are not Communist or Socialist.

Talk to me about actions not words, the labels self-applied are meaningless, the words are a script, rehearsed and delivered with professional aplomb. There is a reason in law the participants are described as actors.

Who does Hanson target, what or who is the focus of her political ire, somebody different?

How do her actions compare to her words? Do as I tell you and you'll be OK!

More directly for yourself, as a long supporter of the rights and freedoms of the individual, the freedom to identify, how would Hanson label you? How would those you care for fair in Hanson's world compared to RedTrump?

As I study Hanson's politics, I realise she is comfortable telling you how to vote, without really arguing a case.

We debate alternatives to governments but they have to be genuine alternatives. In the meantime, the press lecture us about labelling the MAGA like Sovcits as dumb, like winning the US election that lead to current events somehow proves us wrong, I'd call it a confirmation of truth! When RedTrump puts boots on the ground, will he be on the front line, would Hanson, who are the pawns?

Ignoring the underlying laws, how is local politics different?

Is this the uncomfortable debate Hanson's supporters do not want to have?

If there is a weakness in the current Labor or Liberal parties, it's the weakness is calling out the extreme minority views, they are beholding to the minority and it's a consequence of their own doing!

With Pauline and One Nation all I see is a group of malcontents who can't get through the day without complaining about someone or something. A group of emotionally, psychologically and spiritually stunted individuals wondering about bitterly condemning others who are different to them. Totally devoid of humanitarianism... unless you're angry and fearful like them, which puts them closer to the Far Right than anything.