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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #405 –
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It's grievance politics all the way down.
When you look at the grievances in detail, they are as diverse as the rainbow, the only commonality is that everybody has one!

Look at the commentary in today's right wing media and political coverage, the Hanson boosters are conflating the funding of Islamic infrastructure with those mourning the fall of Tehran's tyrant. The media and some political commentary paints the usual "They are all the same" picture. Of course if questioned they deny deny deny, but they are happy to make the inference, as is Hanson.

That is not democracy, never was, and never will be!

The end does not justify any means, and the end may not be what is implied by the speaker or inferred by the audience, they are frequently weasel words that get exposed by actions.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #406 –
As an aside.

Do we think it's a coincidence political and social debate ramps up in the lead up to or fallout from our games?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #407 –
Quote from: LP – on
When you look at the grievances in detail, they are as diverse as the rainbow, the only commonality is that everybody has one!..................

There's nothing diverse about the grievances from Hanson / One Nation. Look through 30 years of her and the party's public and political life. Not only are those grievances historically and internally consistent, they map very closely to far right / populist parties and individuals all over the globe.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #408 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
There's nothing diverse about the grievances from Hanson / One Nation. Look through 30 years of her and the party's public and political life. Not only are those grievances historically and internally consistent, they map very closely to far right / populist parties and individuals all over the globe.
I was primarily referring to the voters not the politicians, in the voter demographic the grievances are non-aligned, but they all have one!

That is the politics of grievance Hanson plays up to, it's that same inclusive media rhetoric I described, the they and them versus us language. Her own declarations and policies are nothing more than a net casting as broadly as possible.

It's right not to underestimate her, but it's naive to think she could ever bring something better or greater than more pain.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #409 –
Quote from: LP – on
I was primarily referring to the voters not the politicians, in the voter demographic the grievances are non-aligned, but they all have one!........................................................

The grievances are consistent from party to party, by and large. One Nation voters would either be rusted on, or be dissatisfied with the major parties, or subscribe to one of the many flavors of anti immigration rhetoric, or whining about restrictions on their " freedom.", be "Australia First", (whatever that means) etc. You may quibble about how each of those reasons is different from the other, but as a group, they present very consistently across the globe for these far right populist types.

People having different reasons for voting for this or that party is nothing new or unique, nor is the idea that politicians would cast as a wide a net as possible to attract votes.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #410 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
People having different reasons for voting for this or that party is nothing new or unique, nor is the idea that politicians would cast as a wide a net as possible to attract votes.
Correct, this isn't new, you've read about it all before in history! It wasn't a valid reason for the voter swing back then and it isn't now, those who vote will still be dullards today as they were throughout the early 1900s, and the 2020s!

We should be more resistant given voting is compulsory, I suppose someone will assert the election was stolen if they fail to win, because their own view is also everybody's!

How do Sovcits even vote given they are required to give a name and address?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"