Carlton Supporters Club

It's not unusual for people getting older to think everything was better in days gone by!

The policy is a wank, but you should blame the Hon Jeff Kennett, who introduced the policy in 1999, thinking he was a shoo-in for a 3rd term and an ugly statue.

I would be curious to know how many taxpayers there are in Victoria, and what the actual cost would be to each of them. Bugger all I suspect. If nothing else, Andrews certainly deserves credit for being able to live rent free in his enemies' heads.

Quote from: PaulP – on May 18, 2026, 01:23:59 pm

The policy is a wank, but you should blame the Hon Jeff Kennett, who introduced the policy in 1999, thinking he was a shoo-in for a 3rd term and an ugly statue.

I would be curious to know how many taxpayers there are in Victoria, and what the actual cost would be to each of them. Bugger all I suspect. If nothing else, Andrews certainly deserves credit for being able to live rent free in his enemies' heads.

Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.

Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.

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Gonna, gonna, gonna........ All you ever hear from this government.

Disgraceful regardless of which side of politics you support.

According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged.  Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.

It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.

Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.

The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.

Quote from: DJC – on May 21, 2026, 10:39:24 pm

According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged.  Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.

It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.

Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.

The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.

I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on Today at 09:32:28 am

I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.

I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law."  The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.

The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire  , have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis.  Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.