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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

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Stabbings have decreased by 11% since the machete ban.  Who’d have thunk it?

The bad news is that there’s been an increase in knife crime involving youngsters 🙁

A better example of correlation vs cause you wont find.

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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #496 –
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Stabbings have decreased by 11% since the machete ban.  Who’d have thunk it?

The bad news is that there’s been an increase in knife crime involving youngsters 🙁
What’s the overall trend in “wounding crime “ with any kind of sharp weapon? I would be looking at banning the carrying of anything that could be used as a dangerous weapon in public. Careful definition would of course be necessary eg the carrying of tools etc would need to be accommodated.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

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Quote from: DJC – on
Stabbings have decreased by 11% since the machete ban.  Who’d have thunk it?

The bad news is that there’s been an increase in knife crime involving youngsters 🙁
What’s the overall trend in “wounding crime “ with any kind of sharp weapon? I would be looking at banning the carrying of anything that could be used as a dangerous weapon in public. Careful definition would of course be necessary eg the carrying of tools etc would need to be accommodated.

What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

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What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
It's a legitimate question, but I'd assert the wrong people are being asked the question.

It's almost like the courts which are full of lawyers spend all day finding loopholes in the laws to set the multiple offending teens free!

I know of one person working on the inside that will tell you it's deliberate, because they think the evidence is clear, the more time the worst kids spend inside the system the more likely it is they become career criminals. But I'm not sure this isn't a confusion of cause and effect, and a consequence of lawyers, welfare and other legal types talking themselves into a corner.

Australia is a big place, maybe it's time to have some sort of remote national service camp for these kids, and put their natural talents to work in Iran or Afghanistan! Of course some will be horrified at the suggestion, but the there there there it'll all be right you are forgiven is clearly failing.
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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

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Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
It's a legitimate question, but I'd assert the wrong people are being asked the question.

It's almost like the courts which are full of lawyers spend all day finding loopholes in the laws to set the multiple offending teens free!

I know of one person working on the inside that will tell you it's deliberate, because they think the evidence is clear, the more time the worst kids spend inside the system the more likely it is they become career criminals. But I'm not sure this isn't a confusion of cause and effect, and a consequence of lawyers, welfare and other legal types talking themselves into a corner.

Australia is a big place, maybe it's time to have some sort of remote national service camp for these kids, and put their natural talents to work in Iran or Afghanistan! Of course some will be horrified at the suggestion, but the there there there it'll all be right you are forgiven is clearly failing.
My wife has been saying this for about 5 years. My issue with it is we will be giving these dirt bags specialist training to be highly skilled DH's.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #500 –
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Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
It's a legitimate question, but I'd assert the wrong people are being asked the question.

It's almost like the courts which are full of lawyers spend all day finding loopholes in the laws to set the multiple offending teens free!

I know of one person working on the inside that will tell you it's deliberate, because they think the evidence is clear, the more time the worst kids spend inside the system the more likely it is they become career criminals. But I'm not sure this isn't a confusion of cause and effect, and a consequence of lawyers, welfare and other legal types talking themselves into a corner.

Australia is a big place, maybe it's time to have some sort of remote national service camp for these kids, and put their natural talents to work in Iran or Afghanistan! Of course some will be horrified at the suggestion, but the there there there it'll all be right you are forgiven is clearly failing.

Career criminals, maybe.

But if they get out and keep offending, they go back behind bars.

IF they are out and keep offending....what have we gained?

Better to lock them up and make the community safer in the short term at least.