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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #660 –
Rumour mill starting to suggest that the government is searching for ways to fill the holes in the public purse, and some genius is floating a 15% GST.

Yeah, trust these guys.

They remove transparency around the 1% EFT surcharge.  Then ive heard remove the capability of using a credit card to pay.  Wouldnt want to create the impression we lifted prices would we?
Increase taxation on everything under the sun, trying to create a "level playing field" by failing to hit the root cause of a lack of supply, lets smash demand!
Meanwhile, they spend like there is no tomorrow whilst somehow still failing to fill the needs of today.
Then, they blame joe average for inflation when every tom dick and harry know that Trumps war in Iran has more to do with it, than anything else.  Oh there isnt fuel shortages, but we are now paying on average 70 cents a litre more at the pump than we did this time last year and what did they do?  We cut the fuel excise for a couple of months there to help.   Im lucky I get away with filling up my car once a month on average.  My Mrs?  Not so much.  She has to go into 3 different offices across 4 days.  So she is filling up once a week to once a fortnight.   Oh get an EV.  Yeah, we didn't budget for an expedited out of pocket cost of the car, the charging and the solar panels to really make it viable.  Electricity still costs money.
Then what do we hear?  People are still spending money...

I found out recently my 75 year old widow mother is unable to get a pension due to means testing.  She owns her home outright you see, so she is self funding her retirement.  Not even pensioner discounts, despite having worked, taken 12 to 15 years off to raise 3 kids, and then going back to work as a secretary.   Her reward for losing her life partner early at age 56 was a one off payment into her super and a consolidated super amount.   Sure, it has to be means tested, but not even getting pension discounts on stuff like electricity, insurance, registration and gas?  Meanwhile, my inlaws get a pension from their country of origin because they moved here in 1990 and worked there until age 40.  Guess what they also get, an Australian Pension, and all the discounts.  2 cars for them, 50% off.  A pension from a european nation, and an Aussie one.  Mum?  Shes been here since she was 2.  You pay full price.  Make it make sense please, oh here it is.  her parents emigrated here.  Worked hard.  Raised two daughters.  They had kids.  The parents passed 8 years ago, and their modest old family home that sold for less than 1 million, is fueling her retirement (split between 2 daughters).  Ah gotcha.   She's affluent now.    Unlucky for her my dad died from cancer at age 56, she would have been a pensioner otherwise as they would have had 2 people splitting that capital rather than 1.  Thats ok, she will run out of money in 5 years, but she might die before then anyway.  If she needs care though...  stuffed.  They will eat whatever she has saved, and we might inherit a few bucks at the end. It will get taxed no doubt.

Thats alright, there is a G8 summit around the corner.  No doubt the polis will fly their way around to gather shake hands and take some photos whilst calling it working.  Microsoft teams not a thing for you guys?  The people actually doing the jobs will likely be stuck in offices here trying to feed the 5000 with the equivalent of a loaf of bread and two fish. 

That sucks Thry, it aint right or fair. We share remarkably similar stories, mums a little older at 87 and came here when she was 17. Dad passed away from cancer at 59 in 1992 so she's been alone for a long time. She owns her home and little else other than some modest savings, its hard but she makes ends meet. She gets a partial Euro pension (hers and dads) and a reduced Aussie pension. At least she gets a discount on the utilities and rego (not sure how long she'll drive for) which all helps. I feel like the elderly in this country are the least looked after demographic out of all Aussies. There is also zero common sense around how they decide who gets what.
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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #661 –
Latest update on Helen Haines is pretty bad : she's lost one leg and surgeons are fighting to save the other leg. She remains in a critical condition.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #662 –


Some people cannot learn by watching other people make mistakes, they need to make those same mistakes themselves.

Thats us, with ON. Sure, we could learn from Trump and USA, but no.....we 'know' better.

Labour and Liberals.....both have their flaws....and numerous ones at that.
However, it won't be until one nation get in, that we realise how bad things can actually get....and by then we'll be begging for labour or liberal to come back into power.



Kruddler, ON may appear to be a risky selection but we have no option with what the current mob haev done to this state. We are in world of pain with debt our great grandkids will still be paying off, essential services that have never been worse crime is off its head, pot holes you can lose a motorbike in, hospital and ambulance waiting times in their worst state and because of what Trump has done in the states we should not support PH? Its a defeatist attitude the current mob are fking useless and anyone even considering voting for them should book in with a neurologist to have their brain examaned 

Its like staying with a partner that belts you as the new guy may strangle you.

Enough is enough time for a change and like it or not its going to happen!

Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #663 –


Kruddler, ON may appear to be a risky selection but we have no option with what the current mob haev done to this state. We are in world of pain with debt our great grandkids will still be paying off, essential services that have never been worse crime is off its head, pot holes you can lose a motorbike in, hospital and ambulance waiting times in their worst state and because of what Trump has done in the states we should not support PH? Its a defeatist attitude the current mob are fking useless and anyone even considering voting for them should book in with a neurologist to have their brain examaned 

Its like staying with a partner that belts you as the new guy may strangle you.

Enough is enough time for a change and like it or not its going to happen!

Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.

Kruddler, theres risks in every change and of course whatever you have may not be as bad as what you can get - that's life and if that's your way of thinking stay in bed pull the covers over yourself and stay there all day.

Voting for Labour is endorsing the current state we are in and why it just cant happen and i dont think it will. 
   

 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #664 –
Latest update on Helen Haines is pretty bad : she's lost one leg and surgeons are fighting to save the other leg. She remains in a critical condition.
An awful situation. Hope she pulls through.
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
2026-Slow start, we can kick after all, why not?

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #665 –
I wrote a big long post but deleted it because this is my place to read about footy - but
I cant take anyone seriously that will vote ON and cbf with the argument - Im still hurting from a close friend spewing the same pro ON bullcrap she reads in the HS.

Suffice to say imo most rational empathetic people want betterment for all.  I dont see Poorline or her alcoholic sidekick Barnaby having that in mind.



Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #666 –
Suffice to say imo most rational empathetic people want betterment for all.  I dont see Poorline or her alcoholic sidekick Barnaby having that in mind.
It's a good policy to have.

Don't wait up too long to hear Hanson to sprout a policy that helps everyone without collateral damage, it isn't coming.

The ON policy engine specialises in victimisation and excuses, pointing the finger and distraction.

Are we surprised that "What About Me" was such a big hit in Oz and globally, in a different light it's a piss take about narcissism and must rate well with Looksmaxxers, Influencers and Joe Rogan?

Our society sells it's soul to be married on telly!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #667 –
I wrote a big long post but deleted it because this is my place to read about footy - but
I cant take anyone seriously that will vote ON and cbf with the argument - Im still hurting from a close friend spewing the same pro ON bullcrap she reads in the HS.

Suffice to say imo most rational empathetic people want betterment for all.  I dont see Poorline or her alcoholic sidekick Barnaby having that in mind.

There's 30 years of PH history there for people to draw upon if they so choose. A proven history of punching down and sucking up. She and her flunkies are as much a friend of ordinary workers as her No1 benefactor.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #668 –
There is going to be a lot of angry posters come 28th November ;)

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #669 –
Latest update on Helen Haines is pretty bad : she's lost one leg and surgeons are fighting to save the other leg. She remains in a critical condition.
An awful situation. Hope she pulls through.

Its beyond awful and never thought our once safe country would ever see crimes like this. 

Hopefully we can turn it around.  

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #670 –
There is going to be a lot of angry posters come 28th November ;)

And about 12 months after that there will be a lot of angry Victorians, many of whom will be experiencing buyer's remorse, and for whom the famous "leopards ate my face" meme will unfortunately be quite appropriate, much like Trump supporters in the US.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #671 –
There is going to be a lot of angry posters come 28th November ;)

Not me!
I live in Queensland. ;)  :D

Seriously though, I just think what you folk are going to end up with is a bit of a mess, with no party having absolute control or a mandate and reliant on deals and compromise to get legislation through.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #672 –


Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.

Kruddler, theres risks in every change and of course whatever you have may not be as bad as what you can get - that's life and if that's your way of thinking stay in bed pull the covers over yourself and stay there all day.

Voting for Labour is endorsing the current state we are in and why it just cant happen and i dont think it will.

Sure there are risks.

We, as a country, are going to go on a journey.

We can choose Liberal....and it might be the old rusted commodore that you keep throwing money at in the hope to get it back to the glory days.
We can choose Labor....and it might be the 2nd hand boat your bought that constantly leaks and never runs right. Throwing money at it hand over fist.
or
We can choose One Nation....and it might be a rocket ship with ACME written on the side. We know we are in for a journey, but have no idea where it will take us, but almost guarantee its not where you are hoping, and it never ends well.

The first 2, are old and busted, but there is a proven track record, IF you can work out the kinks.
The 3rd option....is a ride nobody will want to be on once it takes off.