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Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat

Reply #75 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Not sure if you've read these very forums, but i can understand where the pressure is coming from because many around here think we've improved our list in the off-season.

If those same people make enough noise when things go bad, then it gets really bad really quickly.

My issue is not opinions on here. My issue is a certain cadre of individuals in the media who talk sh1t. The default position for any Carlton coach is the rotisserie, even if we recruit a bunch of U10's from around the corner. One hopes the club can adjust expectations accordingly, either up or down, in way that fairly represents our position, not this "no excuses" crap.

Yeah, i get that, but where do the media get this from? The see it games, they hear it on talkback radio, they see it on social media.

We start it, they broadcast it, we continue it, they enhance it.....

Far be it from me to stick up for the media, but they do it with Carlton because Carlton does it to itself.

Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat

Reply #76 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: PaulP – on


My issue is not opinions on here. My issue is a certain cadre of individuals in the media who talk sh1t. The default position for any Carlton coach is the rotisserie, even if we recruit a bunch of U10's from around the corner. One hopes the club can adjust expectations accordingly, either up or down, in way that fairly represents our position, not this "no excuses" crap.

Yeah, i get that, but where do the media get this from? The see it games, they hear it on talkback radio, they see it on social media.

We start it, they broadcast it, we continue it, they enhance it.....

Far be it from me to stick up for the media, but they do it with Carlton because Carlton does it to itself.

You're right.
They do get a lot from social media and talkback forums.
Because of our supporter numbers we may get a bit more airtime on talkback.
But if you have a look at the various club forums (bigfooty club boards are a good example) it's pretty obvious that we're not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to Club criticism.
All supporters do it.
The other thing is we're probably the club that attracts more criticism from opposition supporters than any other club by a big margin. They like to kick us while we're struggling.


Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat

Reply #77 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Yeah, i get that, but where do the media get this from? The see it games, they hear it on talkback radio, they see it on social media.

We start it, they broadcast it, we continue it, they enhance it.....

Far be it from me to stick up for the media, but they do it with Carlton because Carlton does it to itself.

You're right.
They do get a lot from social media and talkback forums.
Because of our supporter numbers we may get a bit more airtime on talkback.
But if you have a look at the various club forums (bigfooty club boards are a good example) it's pretty obvious that we're not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to Club criticism.
All supporters do it.
The other thing is we're probably the club that attracts more criticism from opposition supporters than any other club by a big margin. They like to kick us while we're struggling.

Yes and no.

As a general rule, Carlton supporters are more passionate.
I think that largely comes down to our ethnic background which is/was unique to Carlton, the suburb, and has continued on.

I can say this, because i am one, but generally wogs/Italians barrack for Carlton.....well more likely to barrack for Carlton.
Its certainly not limited to that ethnicity, but club support is generational and thats our history. Italians are also known for their passion. Thus Carlton are 'slightly different' to other teams.
I'm not sure if that translates to those 'north of the border' like yourself, but its definitely a thing down here.

Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat

Reply #78 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on


You're right.
They do get a lot from social media and talkback forums.
Because of our supporter numbers we may get a bit more airtime on talkback.
But if you have a look at the various club forums (bigfooty club boards are a good example) it's pretty obvious that we're not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to Club criticism.
All supporters do it.
The other thing is we're probably the club that attracts more criticism from opposition supporters than any other club by a big margin. They like to kick us while we're struggling.

Yes and no.

As a general rule, Carlton supporters are more passionate.
I think that largely comes down to our ethnic background which is/was unique to Carlton, the suburb, and has continued on.

I can say this, because i am one, but generally wogs/Italians barrack for Carlton.....well more likely to barrack for Carlton.
Its certainly not limited to that ethnicity, but club support is generational and thats our history. Italians are also known for their passion. Thus Carlton are 'slightly different' to other teams.
I'm not sure if that translates to those 'north of the border' like yourself, but its definitely a thing down here.

Hard to say for sure.
I remember years ago there was a figure that 20% of our members lived outside of either Melbourne or Victoria (not sure which) but that was a while ago, and the club doesn't appear to give a breakdown of the different numbers in membership categories these days.

What is apparent is that support for the club is nationwide.
That used to be obvious at Swans games when they first went to Sydney, and again when I went to a game on the Gold Coast a few years back.
There was just as many people in Carlton jumpers as there were in the jumpers of the home teams.
Back in the day the only vision many states got of AFL was a 'match of the day' each week.
It was a golden era for us and we'd feature more than any club in those games most years.
That may have done something for our interstate popularity.

I'm always surprised when I ask who people support and the answer comes back ...Carlton.
Just on this forum I suspect if you took a survey of where folks lived it would be surprising how many live out of Melbourne or intersate.
I can think of quite a few without even trying too hard.