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Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #75 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
....and speaking of ruck rules....

We've just seen what looks like our first PCL injury (knee on knee) in the ruck, which is why we went away from these ruck rules originally.

Reckon they will tweak this rule again before 2027.
gawn said something about this a week ago.

Sounds like things will change sooner rather than later.

will TDK have to give some of his contract back???
 

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Not sure why Byrne was spending a fair bit of time in the backline at one stage of the game but it's not where we need him.

Lewis Young is a strange one. He has the tools to play the game, but is pretty indecisive at times and slow to react. He's very much a confidence player.

Just on the Ruck contests...without looking at the stats Pittonet seemed to be dominating them and continued to do so around the ground. He also seems to be picking up quite a few disposals
After they started getting pinged both him and Reidy seemed to be hesitant in their approach to the contest at centre 'Throw-Ups'. Confusion reigned. ::)

Byrne helping out in defence is part of the small forward's role.  He covers the ground well and seems to have the endurance necessary for end to end running.

I thought that Young was good again last night.  I don't think that he is as indecisive as the look on his face suggests  :-\

Pitto and Reidy smashed the Geelong rucks, even with the dodgy frees.  What was interesting was that the Cats used De Koning as their athletic, leaping ruckman at centre ball ups and he managed just three hitouts for the game.  I think that we'll go with the two rucks next week.  Working in tandem seems to suit Pitto and Reidy more than it did Pitto and TDK. 
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #77 –
Cats kick well for goal from range (e.g. Henry) but the continued reliance upon aging players like Danger and Martin is catching up... Martin's first goal was rubbish, his second was after a non- HTB call.
I thought SdK was bullied in the ruck and woeful at ground level, didn't want to get his hands dirty.
Pretty clear it's all about slick ball movement in 2026.
George Hewitt is still a vital ball getter and distributor, just wished he was a better kick.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #78 –
Caveat: preseason game.

Loves:
Ollie on the wing.
Jagga.
Walshy.
Coops.
Game plan.
Work rate.

Likes:
Deano.
Crippa.
Hewey.
Pitto.
Derks.
The Byrner.

Concerns:
Chesser.
Fogarty.
Moir.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #79 –
Does anyone have the game stats.
Particularly interested in Pittonet's
He seemed to be picking up quite few disposals.


Edit- No worries got them here
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/8251#player-stats

Pittonet 16 (32 hitouts), Reidy 8 and (19 hitouts)...
Fogarty wasn't great and apparrently iced up but only played a third of the game.
Hayward only played a third of the game as well and apparently threw up again. Maybe he's a bit crook and shouldn't have played at all.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #80 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Does anyone have the game stats.
Particularly interested in Pittonet's
He seemed to be picking up quite few disposals.

Pitto: 7 kicks, 9 handpasses, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 32 hitouts G.B 0.1
Reidy: 3 kicks, 5 handpasses, 0 marks, 7 tackles, 19 hitouts G.B 0.1
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #81 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: Lods – on
Does anyone have the game stats.
Particularly interested in Pittonet's
He seemed to be picking up quite few disposals.

Pitto: 7 kicks, 9 handpasses, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 32 hitouts G.B 0.1
Reidy: 3 kicks, 5 handpasses, 0 marks, 7 tackles, 19 hitouts G.B 0.1

Thanks for that DJC...
I didn't thinK AFL.com would cover the stats for the pre-season games...so I didn't check first :-*

One interesting and promising stat was in the 'Team' ones.
Most of last year our efficiency inside 50 was terrible (30s and 40s).
Last night it was up to 55%
Now we have to be careful because the defensive pressure will be much greater in a 'real' game, but it's one to watch as the season progresses.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #82 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Does anyone have the game stats.
Particularly interested in Pittonet's
He seemed to be picking up quite few disposals.


Edit- No worries got them here
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/8251#player-stats

Pittonet 16 (32 hitouts), Reidy 8 and (19 hitouts)...
Fogarty wasn't great and apparrently iced up but only played a third of the game.
Hayward only played a third of the game as well and apparently threw up again. Maybe he's a bit crook and shouldn't have played at all.
I know Lucas was a bit unwell in his game vs Hawthorn last year, but I havent seen a player in a carlton shirt force themselves to that point for quite some time.   Bryce Gibbs came to mind but I was like surely there was someone else...
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #83 –
My one concern is that we played another quarter where we didn't score a goal. The inability to manufacture goals when things are not going your way has been an ongoing problem for years.  I think we need to be able to score goals against the run of play more consistently than we have in the past.
However beating the two grand finalists from last year must mean we are Premiership favourites.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #84 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Caveat: preseason game.

Loves:
Ollie on the wing.
Jagga.
Walshy.
Coops.
Game plan.
Work rate.

Likes:
Deano.
Crippa.
Hewey.
Pitto.
Derks.
The Byrner.

Concerns:
Chesser.
Fogarty.
Moir.

Agree with most of this, although I thought Chesser was pretty good.

I went last night so I could see how cohesive the new game plan is (watching on the box doesn't let you look 50-100 metres down the ground.....)

A couple of observations.....

- Our forwards need to learn how to work better with this new game plan.  The timing of their leads is poor, either too early, or not committed enough so they don't get a break on their defenders.  We had several centre breaks that could have led to easy goals, but the leads weren't there.  

- Yet again, too many intercept marks by Geelong defenders were effectively uncontested.  If we want the small/mid forwards more involved, there must be someone in Blue contesting every mark in F50

- On point 2, if a forward does go up in a marking contest, a mark is good, but a spoil and subsequent crumbs may be just as good.  The aim must be to make sure the opposition doesn't get it. 

- We really need Newman back with his left foot daggers.  The short play in our D50 is heart-in-mouth stuff (especially if Mitch McGovern and Lewis Young are involved!).

- I'd really like to see a bit more one-on-one defense.  We coughed up quite a few goals by using a zone approach but being too loose. (eg check out Ollie Henry's goal in the last quarter - he strolled in and kicked from 40 while a couple of Carlton defenders were trying to guard space instead of pressuring the ball-holder). 

Overall, a pleasing change, and watching it is much more enthralling than the treacle approach we have been using in the past.


This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #85 –
He didn't have much to beat but I thought Pitto's game was very impressive and contributed greatly to our clearance work.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #86 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Pitto: 7 kicks, 9 handpasses, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 32 hitouts G.B 0.1
Reidy: 3 kicks, 5 handpasses, 0 marks, 7 tackles, 19 hitouts G.B 0.1

Thanks for that DJC...
I didn't thinK AFL.com would cover the stats for the pre-season games...so I didn't check first :-*

One interesting and promising stat was in the 'Team' ones.
Most of last year our efficiency inside 50 was terrible (30s and 40s).
Last night it was up to 55%
Now we have to be careful because the defensive pressure will be much greater in a 'real' game, but it's one to watch as the season progresses.
Do for the Community Games as they organise it. Scratch matches they don't.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #87 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Caveat: preseason game.

Loves:
Ollie on the wing.
Jagga.
Walshy.
Coops.
Game plan.
Work rate.

Likes:
Deano.
Crippa.
Hewey.
Pitto.
Derks.
The Byrner.

Concerns:
Chesser.
Fogarty.
Moir.

Agree with most of this, although I thought Chesser was pretty good.

I went last night so I could see how cohesive the new game plan is (watching on the box doesn't let you look 50-100 metres down the ground.....)

A couple of observations.....

- Our forwards need to learn how to work better with this new game plan.  The timing of their leads is poor, either too early, or not committed enough so they don't get a break on their defenders.  We had several centre breaks that could have led to easy goals, but the leads weren't there. 

- Yet again, too many intercept marks by Geelong defenders were effectively uncontested.  If we want the small/mid forwards more involved, there must be someone in Blue contesting every mark in F50

- On point 2, if a forward does go up in a marking contest, a mark is good, but a spoil and subsequent crumbs may be just as good.  The aim must be to make sure the opposition doesn't get it.

- We really need Newman back with his left foot daggers.  The short play in our D50 is heart-in-mouth stuff (especially if Mitch McGovern and Lewis Young are involved!).

- I'd really like to see a bit more one-on-one defense.  We coughed up quite a few goals by using a zone approach but being too loose. (eg check out Ollie Henry's goal in the last quarter - he strolled in and kicked from 40 while a couple of Carlton defenders were trying to guard space instead of pressuring the ball-holder).

Overall, a pleasing change, and watching it is much more enthralling than the treacle approach we have been using in the past.



Thought for 45 minutes we had things going nicely. Our skills were good and we were bad at getting to the right spots. It was a very defensive game for much of the first half. After that it turned more into a practice match, hence alot more intercept marks.

Re: 2026 Last Practice Match Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #88 –
One thing that bugs me - and did so last night - is when our players go to "outside 5" when an opposition player has a mark or free near the 50.  We effectively turn a low percentage scoring shot or kick to the hot spot into a gettable shot at goal or short pass opportunity.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball