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Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #75
Nothing new in Sam's analysis imo, everyone knows if you can match us in the contested stuff even trailing at half time then you will get your chance to run us off our feet and control the game .It's the same old game plan with a few quicker players sprinkled on the outside as David King alluded to on SEN...

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #76
We won the contested possession by 17, lost the clearances by 1. Even more confused than I was earlier.

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Reply #77
Not a fan of what Dan replayed nor what Doc said.
Stinks of laying into the coach which is unhelpful at this stage. Makes Doc seem disgruntled imo and yea Dan is good mates with those that left last year.

Not cool.

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Reply #78
Aside from that - absolutely love H Dean. Something about him. Jagga is a super star in the making but Dean has that bit of mongrel we have Missed!

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Reply #79


Mr Simpson is there...I'm sure he'll have some feedback ;)

Simmo has made it clear that's really not his game day role, plus, he's only there once a week.

Including part timer Simpson.....and Boak....there was an extra couple of coaches added from last year to this year. Can't remember them all, i think Josh Fraser returned as well.

To lay the blame at Voss' feet when there is 12 blokes who have just sat through their first game together is not fair.
I doubt Voss got to choose them, but they absolutely have a large say in if he gets to keep his job.


I said in the pre-game that i thought we were a sneaky chance to win.....but could also lose by 80 points.
The logic was this, Round 0, we are an unknown. 1/4 of the team was new, new coaches, new gameplan, new new new. We 'should' get the jump on the swans. How we fair once they work out what we are doing, well, thats the unknown part.
True to my prophecy, we did get the jump on the swans and did quite well. However, it didn't take the swans long to work out what to do and they absolutely nailed it to the point that their 3rd quarter, outscored our full 4.

Hopefully the extended brains trust learn from that.
Hopefully our MC learn from that too. There'd be a few nervous players at training this week.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #80
Not a fan of what Dan replayed nor what Doc said.
Stinks of laying into the coach which is unhelpful at this stage. Makes Doc seem disgruntled imo and yea Dan is good mates with those that left last year.

Not cool.
Nothing wrong with Dan if you realise he is essentially just a well connected fan.
He goes through the ups and downs just like we do. He has the same passion just like we do.
He can call on some well credentialled mates.......and thats the only difference to your average supporter.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #81
How did Lord go?

He's a player I have a bit of hope in.
He turns 21 in  couple of weeks,so he's still very young.
He wasn't our worst by any stretch, but once the pressure came on he was pretty much overwhelmed.
The intensity of that period was so much greater than the practice matches and Lord struggled a bit with the speed of the game.

Lord can't handball effectivly in close. I saw it last year and again last night.  A combination of strength and technique and he plays along side the best in the business.

As bb points out his disposals became rushed and inaccurate as the pressure increased.
Now as I see it, Lord's plays a bit of a role as a defensive midfielder.
He's one of the very few of our mids with a strong defensive side to his game.
Exactly what we needed when the Swans midfield started to cut us up.
And therein lies one of our problems...we don't have many.

An interesting stat that perhaps reflects the difference between a practice game and a real game is this one.
Lord had 13 tackles against Geelong in the practice game.
Last night he had 0

I was canned for suggesting Lord was sub-par in that Geelong match.
His 'saving grace' was his tackle count.

Well after last nights efforts, including his zero tackles, nothing has changed on my end......but it appears some others have seen the same.
Disposal is average.
Panics under pressure.
Without his tackles, whats he got?

Now as i said last week, i've got nothing against the kid and hope he comes on.....but if we get a few players back and a few kids step up, he's the one in the gun.

Do you pick him or Cerra? Cerra.
If Cottrell and Acres is fit, do we allow Jagga/Walsh more midfield time.....who would get less?
Williams in the midfield performed very well early, 5 clearances to half time.
What if Ben Camporeale comes on.....he might also force Lord out.

Whichever way you look at it, currently, Lord is the weakest link in a pretty stacked midfield. I wouldn't want to be having anymore 0 tackle games if i was him.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #82
Voss in his presser said he is confident the game plan will stand up as it did in the pre season games.

Surely he doesnt believe what he said there. both Geelong and Brisbane play pre season games with the least concern regarding intensity and purely use them as management games to get minutes into their players. to judge a system in that sort of game is pointless.

Putting cripps forward to start the second against a midfield of heeney warner guiden is asking for trouble and then to just sit idle without a single tactic to slow things down when the ball was streaming out of the middle is bewildering.

Why not try a hard shutdown role on Guiden when he was cutting us up. We just let him continue on his merry way.

Voss has a new group of assistants this year including a premiership coach to help him yet first game of the year and our opponent scores the 3rd highest quarter score telly in the history of the game and all without a single strong tactical move to try and halt it.

Nope hes not the man that should be leading us and when we sack him cause its a matter of when not if,  he will never be a senior coach again.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #83
Voss in his presser said he is confident the game plan will stand up as it did in the pre season games.

Surely he doesnt believe what he said there. both Geelong and Brisbane play pre season games with the least concern regarding intensity and purely use them as management games to get minutes into their players. to judge a system in that sort of game is pointless.

Putting cripps forward to start the second against a midfield of heeney warner guiden is asking for trouble and then to just sit idle without a single tactic to slow things down when the ball was streaming out of the middle is bewildering.

Why not try a hard shutdown role on Guiden when he was cutting us up. We just let him continue on his merry way.

Voss has a new group of assistants this year including a premiership coach to help him yet first game of the year and our opponent scores the 3rd highest quarter score telly in the history of the game and all without a single strong tactical move to try and halt it.

Nope hes not the man that should be leading us and when we sack him cause its a matter of when not if,  he will never be a senior coach again.
Yep, you can't go by pre season games and it's hard to change the game plan when your main midfield group are the players who lack the mobility to contain the opposition spread and get exploited the further the game goes..
You watch Gold Coast and their mids are contested types but who also have pace and I think this is where we need to recruit some new blood..

 

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #84
Voss in his presser said he is confident the game plan will stand up as it did in the pre season games.

Surely he doesnt believe what he said there. both Geelong and Brisbane play pre season games with the least concern regarding intensity and purely use them as management games to get minutes into their players. to judge a system in that sort of game is pointless.

Putting cripps forward to start the second against a midfield of heeney warner guiden is asking for trouble and then to just sit idle without a single tactic to slow things down when the ball was streaming out of the middle is bewildering.

Why not try a hard shutdown role on Guiden when he was cutting us up. We just let him continue on his merry way.

Voss has a new group of assistants this year including a premiership coach to help him yet first game of the year and our opponent scores the 3rd highest quarter score telly in the history of the game and all without a single strong tactical move to try and halt it.

Nope hes not the man that should be leading us and when we sack him cause its a matter of when not if,  he will never be a senior coach again.
Yep, you can't go by pre season games and it's hard to change the game plan when your main midfield group are the players who lack the mobility to contain the opposition spread and get exploited the further the game goes..
You watch Gold Coast and their mids are contested types but who also have pace and I think this is where we need to recruit some new blood..

yes agree we have no line breakers apart from walsh. All one paced and as doc said once the game is no longer a contested affair and the ball is out in the open we have little answer. i dont know much about young walker but hopefully he has wheels.

the frustrating part as a fan is knowing when the game is turning nothing happens from the coaching box to make you think ok out coach is aware of it and pulling levers. he sits watches and does nothing


Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #85


He's a player I have a bit of hope in.
He turns 21 in  couple of weeks,so he's still very young.
He wasn't our worst by any stretch, but once the pressure came on he was pretty much overwhelmed.
The intensity of that period was so much greater than the practice matches and Lord struggled a bit with the speed of the game.



As bb points out his disposals became rushed and inaccurate as the pressure increased.
Now as I see it, Lord's plays a bit of a role as a defensive midfielder.
He's one of the very few of our mids with a strong defensive side to his game.
Exactly what we needed when the Swans midfield started to cut us up.
And therein lies one of our problems...we don't have many.

An interesting stat that perhaps reflects the difference between a practice game and a real game is this one.
Lord had 13 tackles against Geelong in the practice game.
Last night he had 0

I was canned for suggesting Lord was sub-par in that Geelong match.
His 'saving grace' was his tackle count.

Well after last nights efforts, including his zero tackles, nothing has changed on my end......but it appears some others have seen the same.
Disposal is average.
Panics under pressure.
Without his tackles, whats he got?

Now as i said last week, i've got nothing against the kid and hope he comes on.....but if we get a few players back and a few kids step up, he's the one in the gun.

Do you pick him or Cerra? Cerra.
If Cottrell and Acres is fit, do we allow Jagga/Walsh more midfield time.....who would get less?
Williams in the midfield performed very well early, 5 clearances to half time.
What if Ben Camporeale comes on.....he might also force Lord out.

Whichever way you look at it, currently, Lord is the weakest link in a pretty stacked midfield. I wouldn't want to be having anymore 0 tackle games if i was him.

You're a stats man
Lets have a look at some stats

Jagga Smith -27 disposals, 11 kicks, 16 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 3 clearances, 347 metres gained, 4 inside 50s 4 score involvements, 5 contested possessions, 74.1% disposal efficiency. 79% time on ground,

Cooper Lord- 26 disposals, 11 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 marks, 0 tackles, 1 clearance, 408 metres gained, 7 inside 50s, 5 score involvements, 7contested possessions, 76.9% disposal efficiency 74% time on ground.

It's like looking in a mirror :D
Turns 21 in 3 weeks.
Lord is one of the least of our problems.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #86
I use stats to back my argumwnt, not form my argument.

Get the ball in the hands of both and Jagga and Lord and out your life on the line of them finding a teammate.
99% will pick jagga.
The 1% who pick lord will not know who Jagga is or be related to Lord.  ;)

Im not on a witch hunt. Elijah was by far the worst user of the ball, lord may have been next

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Reply #87
Captain didnt exactly cover himself in glory either.

Cripps is starting to become our greatest weakness in the midfield.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #88
Captain didnt exactly cover himself in glory either.

Cripps is starting to become our greatest weakness in the midfield.

Starting?

We've all our eggs in his basket for a while......the basket is getting old and beaten up.